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    Above 95% polish like on the study, if you want to play about with these folk.
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    Viking_Sweden_Gotland_VK474,32.29,45.57,8.99,1.99,5.67,1.55,0.49,0,0,0.93,1.82,0,0.71
    Viking_Russia_Kurevanikha_VK160,24.63,54.16,7.49,3.96,2.47,1.99,1.17,1.75,0.31,0.67,0,0.16,1.25
    Viking_Denmark_Funen_VK139,26.2,50.51,9.25,1,7.04,0.33,0.97,0,0,1.9,0.62,0,2.18
    Ukraine_Lutsk_Medieval_VK541,23.15,43.28,11.7,7.62,7.79,1.05,1.58,0,1.18,0.56,0.79,0,1.29
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    Quote Originally Posted by vbnetkhio View Post
    Slavs among Vikings
    this Rusnak as well (on G25 PC1-PC2 plot)

    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    yes, I see three individual samples with same PC1 and PC2 coordinates as me (so we all 4 plot in the same point in the 2D graph) and I want to understand how relevant is it:

    Sample,PC1,PC2
    ISL_Viking_Age_Pre_Christian:SBT-A-1,0.125205,0.128972
    SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.12897 2
    UKR_Chernyakhiv_Shyshaky:MJ37,0.125205,0.128972
    Carpathian_Rusnak-West_Moldovan:Nurzat,0.125205,0.128972

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    With only pure proto-Slavic samples my Slavic goes down significantly and I get lot of Germanic

    Target: Stearsolina
    Distance: 2.3966% / 2.39663250

    49.0 Slavic
    23.8 Germanic
    17.0 Iron_age_Balkan
    10.2 Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Isn't AV2 strongly northeastern?
    i think she's a north shifted proto-Slav + Germanic, so both the NA and Baltic are high. In k13 she is the closest to Poles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    With only pure proto-Slavic samples my Slavic goes down significantly and I get lot of Germanic

    Target: Stearsolina
    Distance: 2.3966% / 2.39663250

    49.0 Slavic
    23.8 Germanic
    17.0 Iron_age_Balkan
    10.2 Roman
    No change for me

    Target: Dušan
    Distance: 1.4081% / 1.40806163
    68.6 Slavic
    19.2 Roman
    12.2 Iron_age_Balkan
    🔴🔵⚪

    Dušan_scaled
    Distance: 2.0944% / 0.02094437
    60.0 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA
    23.0 Paleobalkanic:MKD_Anc
    17.0 Byzantine:TUR_Marmara_Balikesir_Byz

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    VK451 in the supplementary notes.

    Lutsk city, Volyn oblast (region), Ukraine
    Relevance for the Vikings: Rurik dynasty
    Izjaslav Ingvarevych, «Izjaslav, son of Ingvar» (in Ukrainian and Russian languages endings -ovych,
    -evych after the name have a meaning «son of») was 13th 1270 century prince of Dorogobuzh, Principality
    of Volhynia/Galicia, aged 30-40 according to anthropologist analysis.

    Sources of information: Skull was found in 1989 in a tomb on the territory of Lutsk castle (Figs. S1.4 and S1.5).
    Archeology report is located in scientific archive of Lutsk State historical and cultural reserve
    (Научный архив Государственного историко-культурного заповедника города Луцк).
    Archive number: 203, 51 pages. Coordinates: WGS84: 50° 44′ 20″ N, 25° 19′ 23″ E; 50.738889°, 25.323056°

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Works great, fit is extraordinary. I'm suprised how much Slavic I score.
    Target: Nurzat
    Distance: 1.4715% / 1.47153493
    70.0 Slavic
    21.8 Roman
    8.2 Iron_age_Balkan


    when I remove Vikings:

    Target: Nurzat
    Distance: 1.8186% / 1.81861482
    68.4 Slavic
    19.0 Iron_age_Balkan
    12.6 Roman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nurzat View Post
    Target: Nurzat
    Distance: 1.4715% / 1.47153493
    70.0 Slavic
    21.8 Roman
    8.2 Iron_age_Balkan


    when I remove Vikings:

    Target: Nurzat
    Distance: 1.8186% / 1.81861482
    68.4 Slavic
    19.0 Iron_age_Balkan
    12.6 Roman
    You need to use samples which Vbn marked as proto-Slavic in page before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham View Post
    VK451 in the supplementary notes.
    any info about these?

    Viking_Denmark_Funen_VK139
    Viking_Denmark_Jutland_VK340
    Viking_Denmark_Langeland_VK287

    Viking_Sweden_Gotland_VK454
    Viking_Sweden_Gotland_VK474

    Viking_Russia_Gnezdovo_VK272
    Viking_Russia_Kurevanikha_VK160
    Viking_Russia_Pskov_VK159

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    So those are an actual knyaz's results, am I right? Pretty interesting. Can I get his Dodecad K12b?

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