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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    Does that make communism Jewish? Communism is not a racial ideology and Marx criticised Jewish capitalists directly.

    Was Vietnamese communism Jewish as well?

    What about communism here in India?

    Is the Chinese Communist Party Jewish?

    Communism does not belong to any one race or ethnicity, although many Jews took to it readily in countries where it was their best means of political dissent, just as many foreigners in my country take to the left as their best means of political dissent.

    I didn't say every commie is a Jew...

    Your twisting my words and your poor argumentation is totally not relevant...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    Do you believe that you are are a soul MarcvSS?
    I don't quit get your question here comrade...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarcvSS... View Post
    I didn't say every commie is a Jew...

    Your twisting my words and your poor argumentation is totally not relevant...
    I did not say that you did.

    Would you say that communism is Jewish?
    Last edited by Fortis in Arduis; 03-30-2009 at 01:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post

    Would you say that communism is Jewish?
    The base certainly is yes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    Germany's pre-nazi Jewish population was 0.75%
    Quote Originally Posted by MarcvSS... View Post
    Is that so? Where do you obtain these facts?
    Officially 0.75%, but the unofficial flood of "Ostjuden" during and right after the 1914-1918 war, raised the true number by a lot.

    It's one of the reasons the NSDAP propaganda was able to raise anti-Jewish populist sentiment so much: In the 1920s, regular Germans were conscious of the fact that many German cities had huge numbers of immigrant-Ostjuden. (To say nothing of the fact that so much of German society was owned by the original 0.75%-Jews).

    Hence point #8 of the NSDAP platform adopted in early 1920:
    8. There must not be any further immigration of non-Germans. We demand that all non-Germans who immigrated since 2 August 1914 be forced to leave the Reich immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    I did not say that you did.

    Would you say that communism is Jewish?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    Does that make communism Jewish? Communism is not a racial ideology and Marx criticised Jewish capitalists directly.

    Communism does not belong to any one race or ethnicity, although many Jews took to it readily in countries where it was their best means of political dissent, just as many foreigners in my country take to the left as their best means of political dissent.
    If you mean the advanced political and philosophical theories and thoughts which constitute 'communism', then yes they are jewish. Communism has been adopted as a tool by others either to push for redistribution of wealth within a society (American Blacks, African National Congress, various peoples who were occupied by colonial empires including the celts) or as a way to maintain control over a society. Robert Mugabe would fit into both categories, first advocating communism to redistribute wealth and power from a powerful/productive class to one much less so, and then after achieving independence continuing the system as a way to maintain power over the country for himself and his pals. Could Robert Mugabe sit down and write The Communist Manifesto himself? Doubtful. For that you need the jews.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    Hang on a second... communism is another materialistic ideology, like capitalism
    As long as people have human needs like food and shelter, you are going to have to have some sort of ideology to deal with that. Suppose I'm hungry, but don't have any food. My neighbor has a couple chickens. What happens now? Should he be required to give me a chicken? Do I have to go and ask him for a chicken, and perhaps mop his floors or do some other unpleasant task before he gives me a chicken? If I sneak in at night and grab a chicken when he's not looking, will other members of the community intervene?

    Marx even wrote a book, interpreted by many as being anti-Semitic:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Jewish_Question

    Marx concludes that while individuals can be 'spiritually' and 'politically' free in a secular state, they can still be bound to material constraints on freedom by economic inequality

    Hey, now we know where Obama/Sharpton etc get their ideas! Blacks have 'civil rights' but are not 'truly free' due to 'persistent economic inequality'

    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny View Post
    Officially 0.75%, but the unofficial flood of "Ostjuden" during and right after the 1914-1918 war, raised the true number by a lot.

    It's one of the reasons the NSDAP propaganda was able to raise anti-Jewish populist sentiment so much: In the 1920s, regular Germans were conscious of the fact that many German cities had huge numbers of immigrant-Ostjuden. (To say nothing of the fact that so much of German society was owned by the original 0.75%-Jews).

    Hence point #8 of the NSDAP platform adopted in early 1920:
    Yes, it's been a while since I have watched Der Ewige Jude, but one of the arguments presented in the piece was to show jews making up large portions of important segments of society while their portion of the overall population was very small.

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    To me, capitalism and Marxism are just materialistic ideologies with nothing intrinsically Jewish about them.

    There are Jewish nationalists who oppose international capitalism and socialism, and they are possibly a proportionately larger group in Israel than white Americans of the same political persuasion are in America.

    ...or British nationalists are in Britain for that matter...

    Nazis and others refuse to acknowledge and applaud these people because they want a bogeyman to blame.

    Also groups such as the NPD receive tacit support, and it is alleged, funding from Islamists and anti-Zionists such as the Iranian president.

    Seeing so called 'nationalists' supporting Islamist aggression is very dissappointing to say the least, and counter-productive as can be evidenced by the tragic demise of the Islamophile French Front National.

    How much longer before the uber-state-infiltrated NPD takes its own calculated fall from grace?
    Last edited by Fortis in Arduis; 03-31-2009 at 02:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fortis_in_Arduis View Post
    How much longer before the uber-state-infiltrated NPD takes its own calculated fall from grace?
    Well, the recent takeover of the 'nationalist' clothing line "Thor Steinar" by Arab venture-capitalists out of Dubai, did seem almost like a calculated move to demoralize people.

    See here; "Thor Steinar has been sold to Dubai?!?!" :mmmm:

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