Trevi~no the Mexican Sefardic last name.

[Erronkari]

La mayoría de los judíos en Portugal se asentaron en los pueblos de la Serra da Estrela.
Hoy día donde hay un número realmente importante de judios que pasaron por Portugal o judios de origen portugués en sí es en Amsterdam y en Rotterdam.

[Rocinante]

I forgot I was on TA. It doesn't matter what % of R1b lines are European when it concerns Jews. R1b has been found in Bronze Age Levant.

Middle Eastern R1b in Jews:

https://jewishdna.net/R1b-Z2103.html
https://jewishdna.net/R1b-old.html

Exactly what i said my friend.

R-Z2103 is the west asian clade of R1b, it is highly associated with the first indo-european expansion (Alongside R-Z93) through the Caucasus and Anatolia, hitties would be the main group carrying this clade. Now the chadic R-V88, highly asociated to the Villabruna Cluster, could be the one that has a lot of hebrew clades, but no one in West Europe has it except some sardinians.

[Erronkari]

Exactly what i said my friend.

R-Z2103 is the west asian clade of R1b, it is highly associated with the first indo-european expansion (Alongside R-Z93) through the Caucasus and Anatolia, hitties would be the main group carrying this clade. Now the chadic R-V88, highly asociated to the Villabruna Cluster, could be the one that has a lot of hebrew clades, but no one in West Europe has it except some sardinians.

So U152/PF6570/S28 is not west asian?

[Rocinante]

So U152/PF6570/S28 is not west asian?

Perdona que te iba a responder y se cayó el foro.

R-U152 is extremely european, impossible to be west asian or something non-european.

[Erronkari]

Perdona que te iba a responder y se cayó el foro.

R-U152 is extremely european, impossible to be west asian or something non-european.

Oh... I see... it seems it's definitely italo-celtic... I don't understand how I inherited it...

[Rocinante]

Oh... I see... it seems it's definitely italo-celtic... I don't understand how I inherited it...

It is highly associated with La Tene expansion:



See how it represents arrows with a R-S28 marker, La Tene expanded to all western, southern and northern Europe, mostly the R-L2 clade, that's why it would be great if you investigate what clade is after your R-U152. R-Z56 is associated to romans and R-Z36 is more italo-gaulish.

[Ethel]

So U152/PF6570/S28 is not west asian?

R-U152 is extremely european, impossible to be west asian or something non-european.

everybody knows y'all basic west asian invaders

[Kamal900]

I did a quick search. There are at least 3 distinct lineages bearing the Trevino name. Given that they fall into P58, M81, R1b, it's likely at least one is Sephardic. No, R1b can't be dismissed as non-Jewish. Jews fall into both MENA and European R1b subclades. Best bet is that the P58 lineage is Sephardi, with the other two most likely not being Jewish, though having a non negligible chance.

More than half of the ancient Canaanites from the 2020 study show that they belong in the J1-P58 clade which is hilariously Semitic(the clade is found predominately in both Arabians and Jews), but yes..while most Jewish men do belong to Levantine haplogroups, some do belong to western Europeans ones.

[Pine]

Exactly what i said my friend.

R-Z2103 is the west asian clade of R1b, it is highly associated with the first indo-european expansion (Alongside R-Z93) through the Caucasus and Anatolia, hitties would be the main group carrying this clade. Now the chadic R-V88, highly asociated to the Villabruna Cluster, could be the one that has a lot of hebrew clades, but no one in West Europe has it except some sardinians.

You said no subclade of R1b could be an ancient Jewish lineage. I showed that to be false. R-Z2013 clearly had a presence in ancient Israel/Judea. That's clear from the links.

[Pine]

So U152/PF6570/S28 is not west asian?

Are you insecure that R1b has Middle Eastern clades?