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    That map show how it should be. Some of the areas that are marked green are under the occupation of Armenia and there are no Azerbaijanis there at the moment.

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    It seems that most of these Kurds were deported to Kazakhstan in 1937:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20131004...e.aspx?id=7857 - Lachin Kurdish Republic is declared

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_...baijan#History

    "After the establishment of the Soviet rule in Azerbaijan, the Central Executive Committee of the Azerbaijan SSR created in 1923 an administrative unit known as Red Kurdistan in the districts of Lachin, Qubadli and Zangilan, with its capital in Lachin.[15] According to the 1926 census, 73% of its population was Kurdish and 26% was Azeri.[16] In 1930 it was abolished and most remaining Kurds were progressively recategorized as Azerbaijani.[17]"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurdistansky_Uyezd

    "The uyezd was established on 7 July 1923. The majority of Kurds in the region were Shia, unlike the Sunni Kurds of Nakhichevansky Uyezd and other areas of the Middle East. At the 1926 Soviet Census, Kurdistansky uyezd had a total population of 51,426 people, with ethnic Kurds constituting 72.3% or 37,182 people. According to the same census, 92.5% of the population of the uyezd cited the Azerbaijani language as their native tongue.[3]"

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    I saw a DNA study with Kazakhstan Kurds, and I have their raw data files from this study.

    Are these Kurds from Kazakhstan descended only from Kurds who lived in Red Kurdistan?

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    I think most of the Kurds got assimilated into the Turkish population due to being Shia Kurds and being similar culturally to Azerbaijani Turks.

    In my father's home village there were turkish speaking Shia Kurdish tribes and they were not really considered as different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I think most of the Kurds got assimilated into the Turkish population due to being Shia Kurds.
    They also live in Kazakhstan, but I checked what they scored and they have no any weird admixtures, just normal Kurdish results:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Kazakhstan

    (are they descended only from those Shia Kurds in Red Kurdistan, or from a mix of Kurds from various regions?)

    There are 6 samples:



    Edit:

    OK it seems they are a mix:

    "Kurds were deported twice to Central Asia from Caucasia. The first deportation occurred in 1937 where Stalin deported Kurds from Nakhchivan and the second deportation occurred in 1944 in Georgia. Stalin feared a Turkish invasion and he saw Kurds as unreliable, even though many Kurds served in the Soviet military. Many of them died during the deportations.[3]

    After the Osh riots and the riots in Fergana Valley between Kyrgyzs and Uzbeks, many Kurds moved to Kazakhstan.[3]"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peterski View Post
    They also live in Kazakhstan, but I checked what they scored and they have no any weird admixtures, just normal Kurdish results:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurds_in_Kazakhstan

    (are they descended only from those Shia Kurds in Red Kurdistan, or from a mix of Kurds from various regions?)

    There are 6 samples:


    Edit:

    OK it seems they are a mix:

    "Kurds were deported twice to Central Asia from Caucasia. The first deportation occurred in 1937 where Stalin deported Kurds from Nakhchivan and the second deportation occurred in 1944 in Georgia. Stalin feared a Turkish invasion and he saw Kurds as unreliable, even though many Kurds served in the Soviet military. Many of them died during the deportations.[3]

    After the Osh riots and the riots in Fergana Valley between Kyrgyzs and Uzbeks, many Kurds moved to Kazakhstan.[3]"
    Probably a mix. I think tribal unions were already present before hand and some Kurdish tribes are considered Azerbaijani nowadays. I don't know much about the Soviet deportations and where they were from unfortunately.
    Last edited by Kyp; 10-14-2020 at 09:18 PM.

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    https://www.researchgate.net/publica..._Red_Kurdistan

    "In 1919,Armenian attacks on the Kurdish population in the Republic of Armenia forced thelatter to escape to Iran and Turkey. Many of them settled in the compact settlementsof the Kurdish population in the north of Nakhchivan exclave after leaving Turkeyand Iran in 1926."

    "According to the census of 1926, the total number of the Kurds in the Kurdistan Uezd of Azerbaijan was 37,182 (72.2 percent of the Uezd population) and 3,123 of them could speak Kurdish (excluding Nakhchivan) . The Kurdish population in the Nakhchivan exclave of Azerbaijan in 1925 was recorded to be around 3,000 . In 1929, only 17.8 percent of the Kurds (7,355 out of 41,193) could speak their native tongue. However, a report written in 1931 provides a higher percentage, estimating that only 12,000 out of 42,216 of the Kurdish minority spoke their native tongue. The 1936 figures showed that the population of Kurdish speakers among Kurds was lower than that reported in 1931 (around 5–6,000). These figures indicate that the majority of Kurds living in Azerbaijan had been linguistically Turkified or were at least bi-lingual"

    "In 1931, an expedition group offive experts led by Pro-fessor S. Bukshpan was sent to study the Kurdish population of Azerbaijan. Bukshpan, who was far from being a Turkic nationalist, confirmed the widespread practice of inter-ethnic marriages and underlined the spread of the Turkic language in place of Kurdish. Those Kurds who did not know Turkic either lived in small remote mountain settlements far from Shusha’s town market and artisan pro-duction, or they were female members of the communities who had no contact with Turkic speakers. The process of Turkification of the Kurds in Azerbaijan had started long before the Soviet regime began administering the region. The Russian Imperial records referred to this phenomenon as Tatarization (Russian:tatarizatsiia) because the imperial administration named all the Turkic populations of the region as Tatars. The Turkification of the Kurds was not the only case. A high level of Turkification was taking place prior to the Soviet period, especially among other Muslim peoples, such as Talish and Tsakhur. The similarities in religion, customs, lifestyle and history allowed this pre-Soviet process ofassimilation to take a natural course"
    Last edited by Kyp; 10-14-2020 at 09:30 PM.

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