Ethnographic map of Great Britain & Ireland 1856

[Peterski]

https://cdn.mapmania.org/original/18...land_62382.jpg

[Peterski]

This one also interesting - https://cdn.mapmania.org/original/ca...1720_78654.png



And: https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/imag...001012-gr3.jpg



Ulster: https://www.libraryireland.com/gregg...er-scots-6.jpg

[Davystayn]

https://cdn.mapmania.org/original/18...land_62382.jpg

Cool map, makes a lot of sense, the west east split and north south split in England, culturally still there today.

Scotland west east split as well, which is always underestimated, the north south split in wales too, cultural signs are still there.

Would be interesting to see how this correlates with accents, thanks for posting

[JamesBond007]

Cool map, makes a lot of sense, the west east split and north south split in England, culturally still there today.

Scotland west east split as well, which is always underestimated, the north south split in wales too, cultural signs are still there.

Would be interesting to see how this correlates with accents, thanks for posting

This is good reading which I found more clear despite the saying 'a picture is worth a thousand words' . People on this forum who are not British or of British origin seem to be under the delusion that Britain is Scandinavia or something probably because they are closet nazis. I'm Atlantid with very minor dinaric not sure if there is anything else in the admixture maybe some UP but that would still be Atlantid with minor dinaric. According to this I can fit in Cornwall, Merionethshire Wales, and Cumberland. I don't think I'm alpine or nordic enough to be Scottish and I am not 'Irish' because of the minor dinaric etc... :

THE RACIAL ELEMENTS OF EUROPEAN HISTORY

Chapter VI Part One

THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE EUROPEAN RACES IN EUROPE



THE British Isles seem to be nowhere so fair as north-west Germany, nowhere so dark as the south of France. The fairness of the population diminishes on the whole in the direction north-east to south-west. The whole area in England south of the Liverpool-Manchester line, and west of 2° W. -- that is roughly, of a line from Manchester to Bournemouth -- is relatively dark. Within this area only Wiltshire and east Somerset are somewhat fairer; Cornwall and the southern half of Wales are darkest. The counties of Northampton, Huntingdon, Bedford, Buckingham, and Hertford, lying in the middle of England, are dark. Relatively dark, too, is the mountainous part of Scotland south of the Caledonian Canal (northern Scotland is relatively pure Nordic); Inverness, Argyll, and southern Scotland west of a line from Glasgow to Carlisle are particularly dark. Ireland belongs to the somewhat darker districts of the British Isles, with the exception of Counties Limerick and Tipperary. Darkest of all is the south (Kerry, Cork, Waterford), and the west and north (Connaught and Ulster). The western part of County Galway in Connaught is (according to Beddoe) strongly Mediterranean.

The darkness of these districts in the British Isles arises from Mediterranean and Alpine blood. Of Dinaric blood there is hardly any perceptible trace in the British Isles; there is a somewhat stronger strain in Cornwall, Merionethshire, Cumberland, and especially in the district round the Firth of Forth, where 25 per cent. of the people are brachycephalic.1 Cornwall seems to be predominantly Mediterranean; its people, too (owing to a strain of the Oriental race since the time of the Phoenician voyages to southern England?), are said often to show features calling to mind a 'Semitic' type of face.2 Wales would seem to have a relatively more obvious strain of Alpine blood, so also Devon and the western part of Somerset. The above-mentioned inland counties of England seem to have a fairly strong Alpine mixture. The Chilterns between Oxford and Cambridge, however, show a considerable Mediterranean strain. Alpine elements seem fairly frequent in north-west Ireland, western Scotland, and on the outer Hebrides. It is Ireland, however, that seems to have the strongest Mediterranean mixture; the great likeness between the Irish and the Spanish has often been pointed out.3

The rather lower cephalic index and the high facial index all over the British Isles -- above all, in southern England and in Ireland -- point, in any case, to both the Nordic and the Mediterranean race. A distribution may perhaps be made as follows: the mountainous west of Scotland shows a Mediterranean-Alpine-Nordic mixture, the Nordic race being, it would seem, almost wholly confined to the upper classes; Wales, Dorset, Devon, and west Somerset, and north-west Ireland show an Alpine-Nordic-Mediterranean mixture; in Wales only the old land-owning families are said to have a Nordic look;4 Cornwall and Ireland (except the north-west) show a Mediterranean-Nordic or Nordic-Mediterranean mixture. The Shetlands are of Nordic race, so are the Hebrides (with a light strain of the Alpine). On Long Island not so long ago a dark-haired man was looked on with some suspicion. Taking the whole of the British Isles, including the districts which were above called dark, the Nordic strain must not be underestimated; we may adopt the following proportions for these islands: Nordic blood, 55 to 60 per cent.; Mediterranean, 30 per cent.; Alpine, 10 per cent.

https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/...eoehchap6a.htm

[Creoda]

Seems pretty arbitrary and the categories are weird, like something someone here might make, only more fancy.

We know now that most of England from East Anglia until Devon and the Welsh Marches, and from the South Coast until Lancashire/Yorkshire has pretty much the same make-up, with Lancs/Yorks not being that different either. That is primarily a mixture of Celtic Briton and Anglo-Saxon, with some Scandinavian influence in the North and East, and some extra Southern influence in the South.

[Davystayn]

This is good reading which I found more clear despite the saying 'a picture is worth a thousand words' . People on this forum who are not British or of British origin seem to be under the delusion that Britain is Scandinavia or something probably because they are closet nazis. I'm Atlantid with very minor dinaric not sure if there is anything else in the admixture maybe some UP but that would still be Atlantid with minor dinaric. According to this I can fit in Cornwall, Merionethshire Wales, and Cumberland. I don't think I'm alpine or nordic enough to be Scottish and I am not 'Irish' because of the minor dinaric etc... :

THE RACIAL ELEMENTS OF EUROPEAN HISTORY

Chapter VI Part One

THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE EUROPEAN RACES IN EUROPE



THE British Isles seem to be nowhere so fair as north-west Germany, nowhere so dark as the south of France. The fairness of the population diminishes on the whole in the direction north-east to south-west. The whole area in England south of the Liverpool-Manchester line, and west of 2° W. -- that is roughly, of a line from Manchester to Bournemouth -- is relatively dark. Within this area only Wiltshire and east Somerset are somewhat fairer; Cornwall and the southern half of Wales are darkest. The counties of Northampton, Huntingdon, Bedford, Buckingham, and Hertford, lying in the middle of England, are dark. Relatively dark, too, is the mountainous part of Scotland south of the Caledonian Canal (northern Scotland is relatively pure Nordic); Inverness, Argyll, and southern Scotland west of a line from Glasgow to Carlisle are particularly dark. Ireland belongs to the somewhat darker districts of the British Isles, with the exception of Counties Limerick and Tipperary. Darkest of all is the south (Kerry, Cork, Waterford), and the west and north (Connaught and Ulster). The western part of County Galway in Connaught is (according to Beddoe) strongly Mediterranean.

The darkness of these districts in the British Isles arises from Mediterranean and Alpine blood. Of Dinaric blood there is hardly any perceptible trace in the British Isles; there is a somewhat stronger strain in Cornwall, Merionethshire, Cumberland, and especially in the district round the Firth of Forth, where 25 per cent. of the people are brachycephalic.1 Cornwall seems to be predominantly Mediterranean; its people, too (owing to a strain of the Oriental race since the time of the Phoenician voyages to southern England?), are said often to show features calling to mind a 'Semitic' type of face.2 Wales would seem to have a relatively more obvious strain of Alpine blood, so also Devon and the western part of Somerset. The above-mentioned inland counties of England seem to have a fairly strong Alpine mixture. The Chilterns between Oxford and Cambridge, however, show a considerable Mediterranean strain. Alpine elements seem fairly frequent in north-west Ireland, western Scotland, and on the outer Hebrides. It is Ireland, however, that seems to have the strongest Mediterranean mixture; the great likeness between the Irish and the Spanish has often been pointed out.3

The rather lower cephalic index and the high facial index all over the British Isles -- above all, in southern England and in Ireland -- point, in any case, to both the Nordic and the Mediterranean race. A distribution may perhaps be made as follows: the mountainous west of Scotland shows a Mediterranean-Alpine-Nordic mixture, the Nordic race being, it would seem, almost wholly confined to the upper classes; Wales, Dorset, Devon, and west Somerset, and north-west Ireland show an Alpine-Nordic-Mediterranean mixture; in Wales only the old land-owning families are said to have a Nordic look;4 Cornwall and Ireland (except the north-west) show a Mediterranean-Nordic or Nordic-Mediterranean mixture. The Shetlands are of Nordic race, so are the Hebrides (with a light strain of the Alpine). On Long Island not so long ago a dark-haired man was looked on with some suspicion. Taking the whole of the British Isles, including the districts which were above called dark, the Nordic strain must not be underestimated; we may adopt the following proportions for these islands: Nordic blood, 55 to 60 per cent.; Mediterranean, 30 per cent.; Alpine, 10 per cent.

https://www.theapricity.com/earlson/...eoehchap6a.htm

People have moved around more too, where I grew up in a small rural town south of Gloucester there was a split between people who had moved there and the proper locals - going back notice how many were smaller and brunn or maybe alpine like, many related to each other. They had probably lived in the area for maybe before the romans even.

There was a large farm on the hill - the family had been there for centuries, they were all fair haired etc, just daftly speculating but could indicate how west of England was more of a landowner settlement than further east

[Tooting Carmen]

Interesting maps.