Will Donald Trump win or lose the election?

**Longbowman** · 01-23-2021, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by Smitty

That is an interesting post. I'm no economist, but I disagree.

My gf is an economist and she disagrees. I think Kiril is basically on the money here.

**Smitty** · 01-23-2021, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Longbowman

My gf is an economist and she disagrees. I think Kiril is basically on the money here.

Okay.

**SilverKnight** · 01-23-2021, 08:02 PM

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

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**Zeno** · 01-24-2021, 08:11 AM

Biden certainly does do a good job... IN DESTROYING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE'S LIVES IN 3 DAYS.

**Argentano** · 02-03-2021, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by Smitty

More or less the same margins as always. And that's with an obviously decent, very moderate, and not at all racist candidate. So a few Hispanics woke up and realized they were being sold a bill of goods about Trump being a racist. Not really a resounding commendation.

My point is that Election results are not showing a race war. You have hispanic counties like south texas or south florida were trump did great and you have a lot of nh white counties were trump did very bad.

Look at this map its County swing from 2016 to 2020. So counties where Rep/Dem increased % of votes. Notice the couties were trump improved by A LOT are all in south texas and south florida that are heavily hispanic places. And if i am not wrong places where trump did worse are in the whitest northeast and oregon/washington.

EDIT: If you look at Florida or Texas in detaill you will see that in heavily hispanic souths Trump increased % of votes and that in heavily NH white norths Trump decreased % of votes.

**SilverKnight** · 02-03-2021, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Argentano

My point is that Election results are not showing a race war. You have hispanic counties like south texas or south florida were trump did great and you have a lot of nh white counties were trump did very bad.

Look at this map its County swing from 2016 to 2020. So counties where Rep/Dem increased % of votes. Notice the couties were trump improved by A LOT are all in south texas and south florida that are heavily hispanic places. And if i am not wrong places where trump did worse are in the whitest northeast and oregon/washington.

EDIT: If you look at Florida or Texas in detaill you will see that in heavily hispanic souths Trump increased % of votes and that in heavily NH white norths Trump decreased % of votes.

Us South Florida latinos, and the mexican americans in Texas and the west know what's hardship, we appreciate and value the US, those whites in the west coast ("left coast)" haven't dealt with hardship as much as many of us, and on top add the wokeness and white guilt. Oregon and Washington states are liberal hellholes, as well as parts of New England, years of indoctrination by lefty schools, colleges and the media.

**Longbowman** · 02-03-2021, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by SilverKnight

Us South Florida latinos, and the mexican americans in Texas and the west know what's hardship, we appreciate and value the US, those whites in the west coast ("left coast)" haven't dealt with hardship as much as many of us, and on top add the wokeness and white guilt. Oregon and Washington states are liberal hellholes, as well as parts of New England, years of indoctrination by lefty schools, colleges and the media.

? you're Dominican and you live in DR.

**Universe** · 02-03-2021, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Argentano

My point is that Election results are not showing a race war. You have hispanic counties like south texas or south florida were trump did great and you have a lot of nh white counties were trump did very bad.

Look at this map its County swing from 2016 to 2020. So counties where Rep/Dem increased % of votes. Notice the couties were trump improved by A LOT are all in south texas and south florida that are heavily hispanic places. And if i am not wrong places where trump did worse are in the whitest northeast and oregon/washington.

EDIT: If you look at Florida or Texas in detaill you will see that in heavily hispanic souths Trump increased % of votes and that in heavily NH white norths Trump decreased % of votes.

Majority of whites voted Republican, majority of Latinos voted Democrat(like every other minority). Enough said.
In rural areas people regardless of race voted more Republican, there's the reason Trump won in some majority latino areas.

**Smitty** · 02-03-2021, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Argentano

My point is that Election results are not showing a race war. You have hispanic counties like south texas or south florida were trump did great and you have a lot of nh white counties were trump did very bad.

Look at this map its County swing from 2016 to 2020. So counties where Rep/Dem increased % of votes. Notice the couties were trump improved by A LOT are all in south texas and south florida that are heavily hispanic places. And if i am not wrong places where trump did worse are in the whitest northeast and oregon/washington.

EDIT: If you look at Florida or Texas in detaill you will see that in heavily hispanic souths Trump increased % of votes and that in heavily NH white norths Trump decreased % of votes.

1. Obviously, we're not on the verge of a race war, so of course I agree with that.

2. The racial demographics in voting haven't changed much since past elections. Sure, (allegedly) a few fewer whites voted for Trump, and a few more non-whites voted for Trump. But the percentages are still pretty typical.

There are no more indications today of a race war than there were four years ago. But there is still obviously a racial divide in voting. The vast majority of non-whites (of all stripes) vote Democratic, as do about half of whites. Most Republican voters, on the other hand, are white. Clearly, conservatism, to the extent it still exists, is more or less a white worldview in America. The fact that there was a very minor shift in voting patterns is unremarkable. Donald Trump never was a racist. The media lied baldly in saying he was. It appears there is a very small subset of minority voters who, four years later, realize that wasn't the case, that Trump is utterly innocuous to them, and that Republican (albeit not necessarily conservative) policies actually benefit them too.

**Smeagol** · 02-03-2021, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Smitty

The racial demographics in voting haven't changed much since past elections. Sure, (allegedly) a few fewer whites voted for Trump, and a few more non-whites voted for Trump. But the percentages are still pretty typical.

Except that in Florida and Texas where the Hispanic vote matters the most, the shift towards Republicans was very large and significant.