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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    i think Faelid/ Cm is underrated in Finnland (at least on anthrobards)
    https://img.welt.de/img/regionales/n...ge-4-3-jpg.jpg
    Yep, also Borreby(see Alexander Kuoppala, or Marco Hietala for a reduced/+Sub-Nordid one), and really NW Euro types overall.

    Carleton Coon's East Baltid type distribution on his Races of Europe map seems to correlate with Faelid types(Sweden, Finland, Pomerania) save for his enclaves in the Baltic states(who are probably more Borreby+Baltid like Zydrunas Savickas). Basically just a continuation of his broad Brunn type(where he lumps British Brunns and Dutch/NW Germans/W Norwegian Faelids/Tronders together).
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    This is the second or third time she is been posted here.

    Her features are indeed very Uralische.




    She's similar to these Volga-Uralic girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Ural.
    Do you live in Germany? I do, and I rarely see her type here. That's absolute nonsense she passes better here than in Finland. She hast Eastern/Ladogan traits which is especially visible in some angles. She's rather far from the average German phenotype, and passes better in Finland than anywhere else. I do agree though that many Finns have a western look, but she is not a good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Urals.

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    Uralisch/NEUP doesn't refer to the average Uralic type but rather to an idealized ancestral type of the Northeast European and West Siberian boreal zone, related to Coon's Ladogan type.

    German people look woggy and off-white in the same way as US whites, but Marin doesn't. Even if Germans have light pigmentation, they still look like intermediate between blonde Italians and true Northern Europeans like Finno-Permics.

    This lady you posted is a good example of a German look that would be foreign in the <=30% EEF sphere. She has a Germanic protruding chin, so her jawline looks like it consists of three curves, where the mandible and the chin form different segments. Marin has a larger mandible that looks like it consists of a single segment. The lady in the photo below also has supraorbital rims that are slanted outwards, which is another Germanic trait. Like this lady, Germanic people often even have different kind of skin than normal people, where their skin is colored in a more patchy or uneven way, or where their skin looks somehow leathery.



    Here's morphs of Finnish and Germanic teams in the 2019 women's hockey world cup. The Finnish morph has the largest cheekbones, largest jaw, and highest canthal tilt, similar to when Marin compared to the other Finnish ministers I posted. The Germanic morphs have a more narrow and pointy chin, but the Finnish morph has a more wide chin, like Marin.



    Here's morphs of teams in the 2019 European women's volleyball cup arranged in rows by decreasing order of genetic northernness (Finno-Permic, North Germanic, West Germanic, and West Germanic mixed with Romance). Again I think Marin looks the most like the Finno-Permic morphs, which appear to have a more massive facial skeleton than the North Germanic morphs.


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    Her features are similar to Coon's Ladogan type.


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    Quote Originally Posted by travv View Post
    Her features are similar to Coon's Ladogan type.

    Well, this person is unlike the other examples he gave pred Cm. Just a bit high headed- but for Coon this meant a lot. But of course this attribute as well as the cheekbone structure is a contribution of Ladogan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Immanenz View Post
    Well, this person is unlike the other examples he gave pred Cm. Just a bit high headed- but for Coon this meant a lot. But of course this attribute as well as the cheekbone structure is a contribution of Ladogan.
    The eyes are still wrong imo, Marin still has different eyes, but yeah that isn't even the best example of a Ladogan(those eyes lean somewhat to Baltid/Neo-Danubian, Croatian user Stearsolina who is largely East Nordid has similar eyes imo). He conveniently left out Coon's other Ladogan plates(and none of them look alike anyway so citing Coon is meaningless either way):





    related Coon phenotype, Lappish:



    Here's an actual Finn that you can say has significant Ladogan/Lappid(Lappid if we want to be specific, imo):


    (on the right, Marin looks closer to the left one)








    (again, Marin looks closer to the two on the side)

    @travv Those Volga-Uralic examples look nothing like her, the 2nd one somewhat, the other two no way. The Germans I posted look far closer. She even looks like a darker Natalie Dormer who is English, is she Lagodan too? I've seen so many Germans, Danish, Dutch look like Marin it's ridiculous to me for someone to suggest otherwise, and keep in mind Germans aren't exactly the paragon of Western looks.

    Even if she has a small amount of Ladogan influence(you guys are just focusing on 1-2 side-ish profile pics instead of considering all pics), there's no way she is the same phenotype as these examples of Ladogans:





    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
    oldschool anthropology

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    Similar to Swedish politician Annie Lööf (Sanna is obviously cuter though):

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    The eyes are still wrong imo, Marin still has different eyes, but yeah that isn't even the best example of a Ladogan(those eyes lean somewhat to Baltid/Neo-Danubian, Croatian user Stearsolina who is largely East Nordid has similar eyes imo). He conveniently left out Coon's other Ladogan plates(and none of them look alike anyway so citing Coon is meaningless either way):

    Yes, good example of Ladogan male type.

    I posted that example because she is a good example of Khanty woman.

    This is the case when Coon gave the ideal representative of the type.


    These Khanty women below look like her twins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    Pseudo-science garbage, based on multiple pics, Marin is actually an Alpinized Faelid and passes better in Germany than Finland, let alone the Urals. The blonde is the most Uralisch(as a Baltid), although none have very much to do with Uralids or the people of the Urals.

    Marin:





    Random German women similar to Marin:









    Not Germans but various mixes of NW Euros:







    Meanwhile in the Urals:











    Modern Finnish people have very little to do with Uralic or even other Finno-Ugric people, outside the few outliers, despite silly pan-Finno-Ugricism.
    He is essentially spewing metric facts which you for some reason don't want to acknowledge.

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