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Why mongoloid?Originally Posted by Leto
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That feel when a supposed Turk is more African than Asian
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Thanks for posting! Actually, the results are a bit off compared to the Turk_Crete average. At this stage, I should add the possibility of being Cretan Muslim who were Greek speakers. Results significantly differ from the Turk_Crete average in K13 that I created a few years ago and consisted of 5 unrelated samples, but pretty much in line with Greek_Crete. But it also wouldn't be strange if they ended up being ethnic Turks. In PCA, for example, both of them show a shift to the Anatolian Turks. The distance to the Turk_Crete might be explained with regional differentiation in Crete, also.
Eurogenes K13 PCA, due to having Turk_Crete average here.
Dodecad K12b results so far,
the son, you posted his K13.
His mother.Code:Population Gedrosia 9.48 Pct Siberian - Northwest_African 3.09 Pct Southeast_Asian 0.83 Pct Atlantic_Med 18.78 Pct North_European 15.2 Pct South_Asian 0.79 Pct East_African 3.24 Pct Southwest_Asian 12.35 Pct East_Asian 0.29 Pct Caucasus 34.94 Pct Sub_Saharan 1.02 Pct Distance to: Cem 6.64423058 Greek_Crete 7.10577934 Greek_Fournoi 7.54988742 Greek_Lemnos 7.55638803 Greek_Izmir 8.28789479 Moldovan_Jewish 8.79135939 Italian_Apulia 9.07776955 Greek_Foca 9.17797908 Greek_Kos 9.24609647 Ashkenazi_Jews 9.61513910 Italian_Sicily 9.96768278 Italian_Calabria 10.08940533 Turk_West_BlackSea 10.23512579 Greek_Rhodes 10.42708013 Turk_Cyprus 10.87248822 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain 11.01993194 Italian_Campania 11.19527132 Turk_Northwest 11.39399403 Greek_Athens 11.39441530 Greek_Central 11.45174659 Italian_Abruzzo 11.51598020 Turk_Central_West 11.64392545 Greek_Icaria 11.79315479 Turk_Southwest 11.84521000 Italian_Jews 12.23696858 Greek_Peloponnese
Code:Population Gedrosia 8.97 Pct Siberian 0.4 Pct Northwest_African 3.42 Pct Southeast_Asian - Atlantic_Med 21.16 Pct North_European 14.6 Pct South_Asian - East_African 0.49 Pct Southwest_Asian 13.05 Pct East_Asian 1 Pct Caucasus 36.91 Pct Sub_Saharan - Distance to: Aysel 2.93327462 Greek_Crete 3.19515258 Greek_Fournoi 4.21690645 Greek_Izmir 5.80769317 Greek_Lemnos 5.88020408 Greek_Kos 5.90986463 Moldovan_Jewish 6.65558412 Ashkenazi_Jews 7.07132944 Greek_Rhodes 7.15918291 Italian_Apulia 7.18885248 Italian_Calabria 7.21991690 Greek_Foca 7.65194093 Italian_Sicily 8.31392206 Greek_Icaria 8.54619213 Italian_Campania 9.04288118 Turk_Cyprus 9.51319610 Italian_Jews 9.56435047 Italian_Abruzzo 10.14320462 Greek_Athens 10.31361236 Greek_Central 10.61756093 Turk_West_BlackSea 11.46346370 Sephardic_Jews 11.74024276 Greek_Peloponnese 11.93981156 Turk_Central_West 12.06429857 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain 12.23746706 Turk_Northwest
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Do you place Crete in Balkan because its Greece?
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This is the K13 for kit SRS8752864 from the Turkish study of 600+ samples being added to yfull. He is likely Pomak/Balkan Turk judging by his results. Sample is under analysis on yfull. His Y-DNA is R-L1029>Y39054. There is another Balkan Turk/Pomak in this branch with origin from Razgrad as well(not on yfull).
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y44160/
SRS8752864,20.46,23.81,15.94,12.25,20.01,2.54,0,0, 3.67,0.77,0.56,0,0
Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 1.1255% / 1.12548512 | ADC: 0.25x RC
38.7 Bulgaria_Northcentral
24.0 Pomak_Greece
23.9 Bulgaria_Northeastern
9.3 Turk_Makedonya
4.1 Selkup
Here is also his k12b:
SRS8752864,6.14,2.12,2.28,0.34,24.66,31.48,0.58,0, 7.09,0.78,24.51,0
Target: SRS8752864
Distance: 0.8064% / 0.80644864 | ADC: 0.5x RC
70.0 Moldovan_South
26.9 Turk_Deliorman
3.1 Algerian
Gedmatch kit# KV6806249
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Can be a Greek speaking one!
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Thanks for posting. Pomaks in Bulgaria lie in the South of Plovdiv, therefore Razgrad or around don't have Pomaks except for recent migrators. If a person is from Razgrad and claims to be a native of the region, he is supposedly ethnic Turkish.
This result, on the other hand, looks like a mix of Pomak and Deliorman Turkish or even can pass as typical for both groups.
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it's a Turk from Europe (i.e. west of the Bosporus) so I thought this is the best thread to post the result.
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Very cool. So he appears a mix of the 2 shifting toward Greek Pomaks?Thanks for posting. Pomaks in Bulgaria lie in the South of Plovdiv, therefore Razgrad or around don't have Pomaks except for recent migrators. If a person is from Razgrad and claims to be a native of the region, he is supposedly ethnic Turkish.
This result, on the other hand, looks like a mix of Pomak and Deliorman Turkish or even can pass as typical for both groups.
The study is actually 773 Turkish whole genomes. It's not yet released but here is where it's mentioned. I guess yfull is getting them uploaded in advance.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/bioproject/PRJNA674530
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I see, have noticed one Turkish under L330 uploaded as well, wonder if he is Balkan or Anatolian Turkish. I will be uploading it to Gedmatch today.
I also mailed the author about sample's locations, hope she turns back.
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