Balkan Turk GEDmatch Results, Dodecad K12b Averages

**Kaspias** · 10-16-2020, 11:21 AM

151 samples in total.

Components

Comparison between Turks & Greeks, Bulgarians, Macedonians

PCA's

Averages

Code:

Turk_Trakya,8.48,3.85,1.04,0.37,21.03,25.64,0.86,0.08,7.83,3.00,27.75,0.03
Turk_Deliorman,8.07,3.08,0.62,0.69,21.58,28.74,0.94,0.07,7.05,2.60,26.53,0.06
Turk_Makedonya,6.76,1.79,1.02,0.50,24.44,26.63,0.53,0.26,8.13,1.01,28.81,0.11

Individuals

Code:

Turk_Trakya1,7.73,4.37,1.4,0.3,18.4,24.7,2.08,0,6.97,4.92,29.14,0
Turk_Trakya2,8.16,2.92,0.29,0,22.75,25.92,0.36,0,7.18,4.53,27.65,0.23
Turk_Trakya3,8.94,4.5,0,0,18.84,26,1.32,0,7.24,2.89,30.26,0
Turk_Trakya4,6.33,5.8,0.24,0.87,20.32,25.28,0.1,0,8.57,4.64,27.84,0
Turk_Trakya5,10.68,4.87,1.4,0,18.29,23.72,2.52,0,6.8,3.99,27.28,0
Turk_Trakya6,8.86,2.49,1.51,0,21.21,26.92,0.18,0.23,7.65,5.67,25.28,0
Turk_Trakya7,10.8,2.06,0.24,0,19.46,25.26,0.64,0,9.51,4.92,27.11,0
Turk_Trakya8,10.55,3.17,0.09,0,19.72,25.81,0,0,8.15,3.91,28.6,0
Turk_Trakya9,8.12,4.27,2.26,0,23.66,24.53,0.7,0,7.45,1.5,27.5,0
Turk_Trakya10,8.67,3.36,0.48,0,21.63,25.32,0.12,0,7.39,4.03,28.99,0
Turk_Trakya11,11.01,5.32,0,0,16,25.15,0,0,7.93,6.31,28.26,0
Turk_Trakya12,8.45,3.76,2.12,0,21.58,22.7,2.36,0,10.43,3.68,24.82,0.1
Turk_Trakya13,7.7,5.22,0.98,0,20.76,25.55,2.04,0,7.42,2.7,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya14,6.86,4.88,1.16,1.1,19.59,25.01,0,0,11.09,1.67,28.64,0
Turk_Trakya15,8.96,6.29,2.15,0.39,17.49,25.84,0,0,7.53,4.94,26.4,0
Turk_Trakya16,8.38,3.85,0,0.37,21.33,25.31,0,0,7.32,5.43,28.01,0
Turk_Trakya17,8.12,3.21,0.22,0,21.61,26.17,0,0,7.44,6.15,26.53,0.55
Turk_Trakya18,7.32,2.81,1.05,3.07,23.49,28.3,0,0,9,1.75,23.21,0
Turk_Trakya19,10.62,3.61,1.77,0,17.73,21.49,2.24,0.64,9.13,5.21,27.16,0
Turk_Trakya20,10.83,3.68,0,2.15,20.61,21.08,0,0,9,1.26,31.38,0
Turk_Trakya21,5.95,4.72,0.26,0.07,17.16,28.07,2.71,0,9.91,3.41,27.7,0
Turk_Trakya22,7.94,3.79,0.58,0.72,20.51,22.9,0.07,0,9.22,2.99,31.17,0
Turk_Trakya23,10.06,4.88,2.1,0,17.38,26.73,0.48,0,7.82,3.17,27.38,0
Turk_Trakya24,7.48,1.38,1.99,0.64,23.81,26.84,0,0,6.47,0.95,30.43,0
Turk_Trakya25,9.84,0.34,0.46,0.14,22.6,32.16,1.04,0,7.9,1.66,23.86,0
Turk_Trakya26,8.78,1.59,0.89,0.12,21.07,30.16,1.2,0,8.41,0.64,27.13,0
Turk_Trakya27,9.85,2.8,1.44,0.9,22.2,22.4,0.82,0.76,7.81,1.84,29.48,0.2
Turk_Trakya28,8.97,4.22,1.07,0.74,22.26,23.62,0,0,7.75,1.38,29.99,0
Turk_Trakya29,7.46,2.06,1.19,0,23.03,23.85,0,0,8.68,1.9,31.84,0
Turk_Trakya30,8.56,4.59,0.44,0,21.5,21.39,3.03,0,6.98,4.39,29.12,0
Turk_Trakya31,9.9,4.51,1.28,0,21.9,22.97,0.99,0,7.22,3.63,27.61,0
Turk_Trakya32,10.94,2.63,0,0,21.09,28.72,1.98,0,8.01,1.35,23.2,0
Turk_Trakya33,9.09,3.63,0.87,0,22.06,23.62,0,0.46,5.97,5.01,29.3,0
Turk_Trakya34,6.99,5.79,1.66,0.47,20.33,24.56,0.74,0,7.41,2.96,29.08,0
Turk_Trakya35,9.92,5.77,0,0.74,17.33,24.74,1.69,0.1,7.88,3.58,28.23,0
Turk_Trakya36,5.09,3.35,0.19,0,21.71,28.48,1.98,0,8.78,3.3,27.1,0
Turk_Trakya37,7.63,3.85,0.18,0.1,18.64,24.33,1.29,0.27,8.88,6.33,28.48,0
Turk_Trakya38,9.1,2.51,2.02,1.16,20.84,26.29,0.85,0,7.04,2.48,27.59,0
Turk_Trakya39,7.62,2.45,1.39,2.17,20.27,28.68,0.48,0,7.8,0.79,28.35,0
Turk_Trakya40,7.76,5.62,1.58,0,17.83,26.6,0.05,0,8.39,4.95,27.22,0
Turk_Trakya41,9.88,4.46,1.3,0,21.89,22.95,0.99,0,7.23,3.72,27.58,0
Turk_Trakya42,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Trakya43,7.32,1.09,0.65,1.46,23.78,28.55,0,0,6.55,2.66,27.95,0
Turk_Trakya44,6.93,3.8,2.64,1.08,20.8,27.78,1.57,0,7.02,0.91,27.45,0
Turk_Trakya45,7.31,4.9,0,0,23.86,27.33,1.13,0.24,7.3,1.81,26.12,0
Turk_Trakya46,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0,7.68,3.4,26.89,0
Turk_Trakya47,7.57,3.89,0.28,0.52,27.62,22.79,0.14,0,6.4,2.79,28,0
Turk_Trakya48,11.25,2.7,0,0,21.63,22.64,0.6,0,8.88,1.85,30.45,0
Turk_Trakya49,9.57,1.67,1.48,0,22.14,27.74,2.16,0.18,6.26,0,28.78,0
Turk_Trakya50,4.99,3.77,2.55,0.17,19.79,26.74,0,0.35,8.48,1.82,31.01,0.34
Turk_Trakya51,6.78,4.43,0,0.27,26.03,30.43,1.17,0,5.96,0.25,24.68,0
Turk_Trakya52,6.87,2.05,1.71,0,25.94,25.91,0.58,0.07,7.99,0,29.26,0
Turk_Trakya53,9.65,3.46,1.29,1.51,21.15,25.53,2.09,0.26,7.6,0,26.87,0.61
Turk_Trakya54,7.44,3.89,3.15,0.68,20.02,31.08,0,0,8.68,0.24,24.83,0
Turk_Trakya55,4.92,2.19,1.49,0,24.1,30.53,0,0,8.42,0.98,27.34,0
Turk_Trakya56,11.44,8,1,0,19.69,21.8,2.95,0.24,7.48,3.79,23.61,0
Turk_Trakya57,9.55,6.27,0.63,0,20.59,22.23,2.31,0.41,8.88,2.64,26.47,0
Turk_Trakya58,9.4,8.11,0.49,0,15.73,24.3,1.37,0.48,7.16,6.47,26.49,0
Turk_Trakya59,8.89,5.08,3.66,0,18.02,22.17,0.55,0,7.07,4.84,29.72,0
Turk_Trakya60,6.68,3.86,1.01,0,26.82,26.29,0,0,6.94,2.19,26.22,0
Turk_Deliorman1,7.8,3.93,0.42,0,22.94,32.53,0.68,0.3,3.78,3.48,24.14,0
Turk_Deliorman2,8.6,1.1,0,0,22.55,30.17,1.37,0.81,3.9,4.05,27.42,0.05
Turk_Deliorman3,8.26,6.03,0.66,0,20.41,29.26,0,0,8.33,0,27.06,0
Turk_Deliorman4,7.44,4.59,0.37,0,19.65,29.85,0,0,7.99,1.91,28.01,0.19
Turk_Deliorman5,8.06,3.36,0.74,0.91,22.02,30.13,0.43,0.31,6.58,1.37,26.09,0
Turk_Deliorman6,6.71,2.99,0.98,1.14,21.6,31.38,1.17,0,5.87,1.21,26.92,0
Turk_Deliorman7,6.24,2.7,0.11,0,23.86,27.45,0,0,9.56,3.48,26.52,0.08
Turk_Deliorman8,7.29,3.26,0.85,1.33,20.96,28.02,0.3,0,6.1,2.95,28.95,0
Turk_Deliorman9,9.11,2.37,1.27,0,20.66,30.06,0.99,0.3,6.41,5.71,23.02,0.11
Turk_Deliorman10,6.81,2.88,0.82,0.47,20.89,29.49,0,0,6.41,2.69,29.48,0
Turk_Deliorman11,7.9,2.94,0,1.39,19.87,30.2,0.82,0,8.38,2.11,26.4,0
Turk_Deliorman12,6.77,2.33,0,2.8,21.57,29.46,0,0.05,9.32,2.67,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman13,7.1,2.38,0,1.95,20.88,27.21,0,0,9.4,4.07,27.01,0
Turk_Deliorman14,6.18,3.34,1.07,0.3,21.47,28.33,1.34,0,8.17,3.99,25.82,0
Turk_Deliorman15,9.25,3.79,1.13,0,23.06,24.66,0.14,0,7.68,3.4,27.89,0
Turk_Deliorman16,9.53,0.63,0,0,21.05,30.4,0.57,0.06,7.1,4.46,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman17,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.22,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman18,9.61,2.57,0.94,1.78,18.06,25.98,0.36,0.18,9.36,4.22,26.94,0
Turk_Deliorman19,7.51,3.87,1.28,0.71,20.84,30.37,1.83,0,6.67,1.98,24.96,0
Turk_Deliorman20,9.96,2.99,0,0.36,24.49,31.7,0.98,0,4.43,1.25,23.84,0
Turk_Deliorman21,9.14,2.78,0,0.09,25.76,30.41,0.79,0,5.47,4.55,20.99,0
Turk_Deliorman22,10.1,3.73,0,0.58,24.59,30.18,0,0,6.96,2.95,20.9,0
Turk_Deliorman23,7,2.38,0.14,0.57,22.88,28.78,0.09,0.19,7.74,4.89,25.23,0.13
Turk_Deliorman24,7.19,3.19,0.88,0,21.65,29.46,1.84,0,7.25,3.18,25.37,0
Turk_Deliorman25,7.06,3.04,1.19,0.42,23.08,29.1,0,0,6.4,2.15,28.58,0
Turk_Deliorman26,5.14,3.16,0,0.72,23.55,27.88,1.4,0.39,7.74,1.14,28.9,0
Turk_Deliorman27,7.29,3.98,0.72,0.23,22.01,29.81,1.09,0,4.52,2,28.35,0
Turk_Deliorman28,8.72,5.09,0,0,22.57,29.01,0.77,0,5.93,4.79,23.09,0
Turk_Deliorman29,8.95,3.41,1,0.36,20.48,28.12,1.2,0,7.14,2.67,26.6,0.06
Turk_Deliorman30,8.78,3.92,1.07,1.67,23.47,27.38,1.68,0,4.79,1.22,26.04,0
Turk_Deliorman31,9.33,4.24,0.53,0.34,23.27,27.07,0,0,7.13,3.15,24.93,0
Turk_Deliorman32,8.47,2.94,1.07,0,20.16,29.05,0.08,0,6.61,3.99,27.63,0
Turk_Deliorman33,9.27,3.76,1,0,19.96,28.01,0.47,0,7.72,3.67,26.15,0
Turk_Deliorman34,7.58,2.47,1.6,0,25.91,24.09,1.38,0,7.23,3.23,26.5,0
Turk_Deliorman35,5.59,1.63,0.3,1.23,27.19,28.39,1.42,0,5.63,1.2,27.43,0
Turk_Deliorman36,5.28,1.66,0,2.59,24.14,30.06,0.9,0,7.51,0,27.86,0
Turk_Deliorman37,7.37,0.35,0,1.25,24.37,30.25,0,0,7.54,0.81,27.98,0.07
Turk_Deliorman38,4.36,0.88,0.89,0,26.9,32.8,0.79,0,6.99,0.19,26.19,0
Turk_Deliorman39,7.46,1.49,1.44,0.74,22.33,28.11,1.74,0,8.33,1.53,26.82,0
Turk_Deliorman40,6.43,3.32,1.46,0,20.95,31.85,0.99,0,5.59,2.2,27.21,0
Turk_Deliorman41,7.35,3.98,0,0.37,19.98,27.94,1.94,0,7.65,5.24,25.55,0
Turk_Deliorman42,7.37,7.67,0,1.68,17.57,29.36,1.79,0,5.5,6.29,22.78,0
Turk_Deliorman43,9.87,4.55,0,1.64,20.27,29.69,0.37,0,7.12,0.3,26.18,0
Turk_Deliorman44,7.56,2.4,0.94,0,18.52,27.81,0,0,7.44,4.05,31.2,0.08
Turk_Deliorman45,7.05,2.06,1.39,2.05,20.34,26.9,0,0.21,10.73,2.35,25.95,0.97
Turk_Deliorman46,9.74,0.89,0,2.39,19.39,27.31,0.17,0,7.06,4.54,27.99,0.5
Turk_Deliorman47,7.67,3.76,0.44,1.01,22.33,28.02,0.87,0.82,7.25,0.44,27.4,0
Turk_Deliorman48,6.49,0.9,0.87,0,24.46,36,0.57,0,6.48,0,24.24,0
Turk_Deliorman49,9.46,3.46,0,0.34,20.91,27.15,0.06,0,8.64,3.24,26.73,0
Turk_Deliorman50,9.66,1.96,0,0,21.11,29.38,1.47,0.23,7.62,2.83,25.74,0
Turk_Deliorman51,12.11,4.49,0,1.67,16.92,23.23,3.3,0.27,6.53,6.88,24.61,0
Turk_Deliorman52,8.22,4.42,0,0.92,19.75,25.1,1.99,0,6.83,2.9,29.01,0.86
Turk_Deliorman53,9.88,4.46,0,1.65,20.28,29.7,0.37,0,7.13,0.36,26.17,0
Turk_Deliorman54,10.57,3.41,0.47,0,21.21,26.22,2.69,0.26,7.92,2.21,25.03,0
Turk_Deliorman55,5.68,3.06,2.62,0,18.87,25.91,0.98,0,9.15,2.42,31.31,0
Turk_Deliorman56,10.47,3.2,0.97,0,18.98,24.79,0.96,0,7.35,4.45,28.82,0
Turk_Deliorman57,8.25,4.23,0.99,0.4,20.48,30.18,2.12,0,7.24,2.09,23.98,0
Turk_Deliorman58,6.6,2.8,1.24,0.65,22.94,27.65,1.29,0,7.83,1.49,27.5,0
Turk_Deliorman59,7.87,2.93,0,1.39,19.86,30.18,0.79,0,8.38,2.19,26.41,0
Turk_Deliorman60,8.95,2.06,0.37,0,21.45,27.71,1.22,0.27,7.29,3.36,27.32,0
Turk_Deliorman61,10.41,4.57,0,1.25,20.54,26.59,1.65,0,6.17,2.57,26.23,0
Turk_Deliorman62,6.59,2.1,0,0,23.84,27.28,2.6,0,7.82,1.56,28.2,0
Turk_Deliorman63,8.09,1.98,0.28,0.52,23.8,29.37,1.51,0,6.01,4.72,23.73,0
Turk_Deliorman64,8.98,3.06,0,0,22.68,25.73,0.99,0,7.14,2.76,27.69,0.9
Turk_Deliorman65,7,4.37,1.12,0.48,22.39,28.51,0.81,0,4.39,4.33,26.61,0
Turk_Deliorman66,7.31,1.7,0.39,0,24.47,29.77,1.08,0,8.13,1.56,25.59,0
Turk_Deliorman67,9.15,4.21,0,1.24,21.25,28.2,1.9,0,5.83,0.24,27.98,0
Turk_Deliorman68,9.02,4.01,0.25,0.91,18.1,31.11,0.99,0,7.9,2.2,25.5,0
Turk_Deliorman69,8.17,1.91,1,2.97,19.47,27.34,1.5,0,8.69,0.55,28.39,0
Turk_Deliorman70,7.63,2.17,2.46,0.18,20.45,31.56,0.46,0,6.22,0.27,28.6,0
Turk_Deliorman71,8.47,3.8,3,1.14,21.89,27.92,0,0,4.94,0.71,27.87,0.25
Turk_Deliorman72,8.41,3.23,1.16,0,18,29.5,1.29,0,5.96,3.23,29.15,0.07
Turk_Deliorman73,8.05,3.07,0,1.91,21.25,31.84,2.6,0,6.17,0.41,24.69,0
Turk_Deliorman74,9.4,3.48,1.89,0,19.41,27.54,0.53,0,8.35,2.12,27.28,0
Turk_Makedonya1,7.89,1.54,0.71,0,23.36,26.95,1.31,0,6.52,2.79,28.91,0
Turk_Makedonya2,5.9,1.33,2.25,0,24.61,31.74,0,0,7.71,0.7,25.77,0
Turk_Makedonya3,7.84,1.78,0.08,0.08,23.37,31.99,1.9,0.17,6.16,1.25,25.36,0
Turk_Makedonya4,7.24,2.48,2.68,0,24.78,30.5,0.8,0.23,7.12,0.7,23.44,0
Turk_Makedonya5,4.96,1.86,0.24,0.95,26.93,29.57,0,0,8.07,0,27.41,0
Turk_Makedonya6,4.86,1.2,0,1.11,23.28,30.01,0,2.14,9.27,0.45,26.31,1.39
Turk_Makedonya7,4.55,2.54,1.22,0,23.27,30.64,0.57,0,4.85,1.74,30.62,0
Turk_Makedonya8,5.75,2.76,0.27,0,25.11,29.94,0.76,0,9.19,1.35,24.88,0
Turk_Makedonya9,8.54,2.97,2.14,1.77,23.79,17.04,0,0.94,9.18,0.38,33.05,0.18
Turk_Makedonya10,6.4,0.52,0.45,0.18,26.06,27.11,0,0,8.33,0.07,30.72,0.15
Turk_Makedonya11,6.03,1.12,0,1.07,26.27,26.41,0,0.11,8.33,0,30.48,0.2
Turk_Makedonya12,7.72,2.23,1.38,1.34,21.58,27.24,1.29,0,8.02,0.63,28.56,0
Turk_Makedonya13,6.37,0,0.79,1.37,25.19,25.82,0,0.35,9.45,0,30.5,0
Turk_Makedonya14,5.6,1.96,1.55,0.45,31.95,23.18,0,0,8.75,0,26.57,0
Turk_Makedonya15,7.66,1.44,0.65,0,22.53,21.74,0.37,0.42,8.72,1.65,34.82,0
Turk_Makedonya16,9.03,2.5,1.69,0.1,21.33,21.93,2.05,0,7.38,2.49,31.5,0
Turk_Makedonya17,8.59,2.16,1.17,0,22.15,20.94,0,0,11.09,2.97,30.91,0

**Leto** · 10-16-2020, 11:49 AM

Good job as always! So Trakya is the most Mongoloid while Makedonya is the least.
Please have all the outdated/redundant pops deleted from Vahaduo.

**Jana** · 10-16-2020, 11:57 AM

Fantastic.

**Fedora** · 10-16-2020, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Leto

Good job as always! So Trakya is the most Mongoloid while Makedonya is the least.
Please have all the outdated/redundant pops deleted from Vahaduo.

Might change if we would get actual Yörük results from that Macedonia in the mountain villages who lived more isolated ;/

**Kaspias** · 10-16-2020, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by Fedora

Might change if we would get actual Yörük results from that Macedonia in the mountain villages who lived more isolated ;/

I doubt so. People who live under Yoruk self-identification are not more than 5.000 while the Macedonia component here covers roughly 2 or more million people. In addition, I would not expect outlier results from these Yoruks as well. They would probably score as much as Rhodopean Turks who are 9% EE avg.

But it would be really interesting to see their results.

Bender1999 · 10-16-2020, 12:59 PM

Are these Turks who still live there?

**Kaspias** · 10-16-2020, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Bender1999

Are these Turks who still live there?

Most of them live in Turkey. Some still live there, some in Europe and some in the USA. It is mixed.

**Kyp** · 10-16-2020, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Kaspias

I doubt so. People who live under Yoruk self-identification are not more than 5.000 while the Macedonia component here covers roughly 2 or more million people. In addition, I would not expect outlier results from these Yoruks as well. They would probably score as much as Rhodopean Turks who are 9% EE avg.

But it would be really interesting to see their results.

Are there any results from Atatürks city/region of origin? Or with similar background.

**Fedora** · 10-16-2020, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Are there any results from Atatürks city/region of origin?

His mother was from Selanik, though it will be similar to the Thessalonika average, but his father might be 3% at bext, lots of torbesh muslims there, even today they are self-turkifieing themself and learning turkish. His village has a turkish name. Look the results of Turks from Kircaali who live next to Pomaks, they are heavily pomakified genetically and barely show turkic admixture.
His grandfathers village

**Kaspias** · 10-16-2020, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Kyp

Are there any results from Atatürks city/region of origin? Or with similar background.

Makedonya16 and Makedonya17 is from Langaza, where Ataturk's mother was born.

I don't have any kit from Kocacik where his father was born. But Makedonya14 is from Manastir and Makedonya15 is from Ohrid.

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Turk_Makedonya14	5.6	1.96	1.55	0.45	31.95	23.18	0	0	8.75	0	26.57	0
Turk_Makedonya15	7.66	1.44	0.65	0	22.53	21.74	0.37	0.42	8.72	1.65	34.82	0
Turk_Makedonya16	9.03	2.5	1.69	0.1	21.33	21.93	2.05	0	7.38	2.49	31.5	0
Turk_Makedonya17	8.59	2.16	1.17	0	22.15	20.94	0	0	11.09	2.97	30.91	0