Do Muslims Support Islamic Law?

[Ryujin]

A good research about the percentange of Muslims who cheer for the Islamic Sharia law in their respective countries.

[Jehan]

How a muslim can be against muslim law?

I mean, I don't get it.
If you are muslim you beleive mahomet is a prophet, an exemple to follow and the coran is perfect. If the coran is perfect how you can go against or against what mahomet was and stand for?

[placebo]

How a muslim can be against muslim law?

I mean, I don't get it.
If you are muslim you beleive mahomet is a prophet, an exemple to follow and the coran is perfect. If the coran is perfect how you can go against or against what mahomet was and stand for?

Totally agree with you. When I ask the same question to my Turkish Muslim friends, most of them cannot find an answer. Then why do they believe?

[itilvolga]

No, because I don’t believe Sharia is the word of God. The Umayyads wrapped their pre-Islamic Bedouin Arab traditions with some Islamic provisions, attributing it to God under the name of Sharia, and corrupted this concept as “God's law”. Many Sharia laws were excisted before Islam in the region after all.

[placebo]

No, because I don’t believe Sharia is the word of God. The Umayyads wrapped their pre-Islamic Bedouin Arab traditions with some Islamic provisions, attributing it to God under the name of Sharia, and corrupted this concept as “God's law”. Many Sharia laws were excisted before Islam in the region after all.

Aslında bu konu hakkında konuşabilecek kadar yeterli bilgi birikimine sahip değilim fakat İslam'ın geneline baktığımız zaman da aslında bu böyle değil mi? Şeri kuralların dediğin gibi olduğuna katılıyorum fakat İslamiyet içerisindeki çoğu şey zaten Bedevi-Arap kültürünün büyük bir etkisinde bana kalırsa. O yüzden evrensel olduğu konusunda şüphelerim var.

[Ryujin]

How a muslim can be against muslim law?

I mean, I don't get it.
If you are muslim you beleive mahomet is a prophet, an exemple to follow and the coran is perfect. If the coran is perfect how you can go against or against what mahomet was and stand for?

Because Qur'an is made up of a set of rules and principles that an individual is supposed to follow. Sharia law means forcing down those rules and principles into the throat of everyone.

It's perfectly normal that a religious person does not approve of that.

Not to go personal but it's kinda unbelieve how someone coming from France where the rationalism and individualism came out of fails to understand this. Or is it because the abundance of extremists is serving the far-right nationalistic trend in the world?

Totally agree with you. When I ask the same question to my Turkish Muslim friends, most of them cannot find an answer. Then why do they believe?

Religion and belief are personal matters. You can't judge anyone for doing this and not doing that. Also that way you're only catering to the interests of radical islamists who are using the same argument against sane, secularized Muslims. They can believe, it's in human nature, the human nature is not perfect at all, it is prone to believe something, to feel good and better. But that doesn't mean they should practice their religion perfectly.

It's good that there are believers that stay within the line of secular modern values.

[placebo]

Because Qur'an is made up of a set of rules and principles that an individual is supposed to follow. Sharia law means forcing down those rules and principles into the throat of everyone.

It's perfectly normal that a religious person does not approve of that.



Religion and belief are personal matters. You can't judge anyone for doing this and not doing that. Also that way you're only catering to the interests of radical islamists who are using the same argument against sane, secularized Muslims. They can believe, it's in human nature, the human nature is not perfect at all, it is prone to believe something, to feel good and better. But that doesn't mean they should practice their religion perfectly.

It's good that there are believers that stay within the line of secular modern values.

Kesinlikle yargılayamam fakat bana gerçekten ilginç geliyor bu durum. Aslında tam olarak şeriatten bahsetmiyorum konu buradan başlayınca ben genelleme yaparak konuştum. Genel olarak Türkiye'de büyük bir çoğunluk kendi inandığı dinin gerekliliklerini yerine getirmiyor. Ya da dini işine gelmeyen durumlarda işine geldiği şekilde yorumlayıp "gerçek islam bu değil" şeklinde savunmaya geçiyor. Haddim değil bunu sorgulamak ve inanan herkese saygılıyım fakat bana bu durum saçma geliyor.

bu forumun altyapısı kafayı yedirtecek bana.

[itilvolga]

Aslında bu konu hakkında konuşabilecek kadar yeterli bilgi birikimine sahip değilim fakat İslam'ın geneline baktığımız zaman da aslında bu böyle değil mi? Şeri kuralların dediğin gibi olduğuna katılıyorum fakat İslamiyet içerisindeki çoğu şey zaten Bedevi-Arap kültürünün büyük bir etkisinde bana kalırsa. O yüzden evrensel olduğu konusunda şüphelerim var.

Kısmen doğru, İslam kültürü dediğimiz şeyin bazı temel unsurları İslam’dan yüzyıllar önce de bölge halkı tarafından “örf ve adet” adı altında sürdürülmüş değerlerden oluşuyor. Ben agnostisizm eğilimli bir Müslümanım, kutsal kitap dışındaki kaynakların dini referans gösterilmesine de karşıyım. Gerçi Kur’an için de söylenecek çok şey var fakat bu konu hakkında o kadar manipüle edilmiş bilgi var ki asıl sorgulatan bilgileri sorgulamak gerekiyor önce.

[IrisSelene]

I've always been weirded out about the fact that Southeast Asia seems to be the most conservative and extreme Islamic countries apart from countries like Afghanistan, etc.

Like... How did it get so bad there? I've met Indonesians that complained about how extreme people were there and that it seems to be getting worse. Malaysia same shit. Wtf.

Anyway, most Muslims I've met are totally against Sharia Law.

I would think only those who don't live in a country conservative enough and that don't know how living in a sharia law place actually is would agree to it being the country's law. Because I don't understand how someone who knows what Sharia is could agree to it.

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[Dr_Maul]

Interesting variation between some of them. Like how Tunisia is at European levels for Polygamy and Veil Wearing but so low for Inheritance equality. Shows that this is moreso based off of the cultural values rather than purely religious I'd say.