Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

[Leto]

Pakistani Parsi Canadian user Azbuzz.

Azbuzz(Parsi),25.76,0.06,1.14,0,4.56,6.13,15.11,0.54,12.43,0.48,33.79,0

Distance to: Azbuzz(Parsi)
6.46908803 Parsi_India
9.55344964 Iranian_Fars
10.40021154 Iran_Khorasan
12.76247625 Iran_Mazandaran
13.10449160 Lur_Iran
13.21029901 Kurd_Sorani
13.82810182 Iranian
13.85547906 Yazidi
14.67024880 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.74125843 Kurd_Kurmanji

Distance: 146.2207% / 1.46220731
Target: Azbuzz(Parsi) | ADC: 0.25x RC
69.8 Parsi_India
14.8 Georgian_Gurian
10.7 Iraqi_Baghdad
3.3 Pulliyar
1.4 Balkan_Gypsy

Distance: 308.5392% / 3.08539243
Target: Azbuzz(Parsi) | ADC: 0.5x RC
66.6 Parsi_India
12.5 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.9 Azeri_Jew
10.0 Balkan_Gypsy

[Kaazi]

@Leto
These are 5 main types of population in the Nepalese hills. It will help to model lots of people. Still Nepal (125 ethnicity/castes) is hard to capture by just these 5 profiles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Nepal

Kiranti_Rai = 3 kits
Gurung = 3 kits
Newar_Shrestha = 5kits
Khas_Kshatriya = 8kits
Khas_Brahmin = 34 kits (1 duplicate removed)

Nepali_Kirant_Rai,1.06,9.20,0.00,18.58,0.00,0.06,7.66,0.02,0.00,62.67,0.22,0.54
Nepali_Gurung,3.76,9.38,0.08,16.33,0.05,0.25,13.91,0.15,0.00,55.76,0.10,0.22
Nepali_Newar_Shrestha,17.21,5.85,0.25,9.54,0.79,3.12,29.01,0.27,0.00,32.71,1.21,0.05
Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya,26.86,3.64,0.06,5.07,1.07,8.55,33.68,0.09,0.58,16.62,3.79,0.01
Nepali_Khas_Brahmin,33.65,1.83,0.09,1.39,2.44,13.76,35.33,0.06,0.54,4.38,6.47,0.05

[Leto]

@Leto
These are 5 main types of population in the Nepalese hills. It will help to model lots of people. Still Nepal (125 ethnicity/castes) is hard to capture by just these 5 profiles. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Nepal

Kiranti_Rai = 3 kits
Gurung = 3 kits
Newar_Shrestha = 5kits
Khas_Kshatriya = 8kits
Khas_Brahmin = 34 kits (1 duplicate removed)

Nepali_Kirant_Rai,1.06,9.20,0.00,18.58,0.00,0.06,7.66,0.02,0.00,62.67,0.22,0.54
Nepali_Gurung,3.76,9.38,0.08,16.33,0.05,0.25,13.91,0.15,0.00,55.76,0.10,0.22
Nepali_Newar_Shrestha,17.21,5.85,0.25,9.54,0.79,3.12,29.01,0.27,0.00,32.71,1.21,0.05
Nepali_Khas_Kshatriya,26.86,3.64,0.06,5.07,1.07,8.55,33.68,0.09,0.58,16.62,3.79,0.01
Nepali_Khas_Brahmin,33.65,1.83,0.09,1.39,2.44,13.76,35.33,0.06,0.54,4.38,6.47,0.05

Great. Although 3 samples is a pretty small number to be honest. Maybe it's okay if they're very homegenous groups.

[Kaazi]

Great. Although 3 samples is a pretty small number to be honest. Maybe it's okay if they're very homegenous groups.

Well, those with 3 kits look pretty homogeneous. The 1st one (Nepali_Kirant_Rai) is pretty isolated tribe as well. Take a look at these kits and decide.

Nepali_Kirant_Rai 3 kits
Gedrosia Siberian Northwest African Southeast Asian Atlantic Med North European South Asian East African Southwest Asian East Asian Caucasus Sub Saharan Total
1.33 9.92 0.00 18.30 0.00 0.00 9.13 0.00 0.00 61.32 0.00 0.00 100.00
1.85 9.77 0.00 18.61 0.00 0.00 6.25 0.00 0.00 62.10 0.65 0.77 100.00
0.00 7.91 0.00 18.83 0.00 0.17 7.61 0.06 0.00 64.58 0.00 0.84 100.00

Nepali_Gurung 3 kits
Gedrosia Siberian Northwest African Southeast Asian Atlantic Med North European South Asian East African Southwest Asian East Asian Caucasus Sub Saharan Total
3.40 10.63 0.23 15.65 0.15 0.00 13.94 0.33 0.00 55.68 0.00 0.00 100.01
4.78 9.22 0.00 15.72 0.00 0.75 14.36 0.00 0.00 54.86 0.31 0.00 100.00
3.11 8.29 0.00 17.63 0.00 0.00 13.43 0.13 0.00 56.75 0.00 0.65 99.99

Nepali_Newar_Shrestha 5 kits
16.86 6.26 0.00 10.06 1.87 2.48 29.33 0.00 0.00 32.59 0.56 0.00 100.01
18.74 5.40 0.00 9.48 1.19 2.59 28.83 0.05 0.00 32.31 1.41 0.00 100.00
17.33 5.54 1.04 10.78 0.77 3.18 29.25 0.17 0.00 30.49 1.47 0.00 100.02
15.67 5.94 0.00 11.17 0.05 4.25 27.49 0.00 0.00 33.05 2.15 0.23 100.00
17.47 6.13 0.23 6.21 0.05 3.08 30.16 1.11 0.00 35.11 0.46 0.00 100.01

What no. of kits would you always suggest?

[Leto]

Well, those with 3 kits look pretty homogeneous. The 1st one (Nepali_Kirant_Rai) is pretty isolated tribe as well. Take a look at these kits and decide.

Nepali_Kirant_Rai 3 kits
Gedrosia Siberian Northwest African Southeast Asian Atlantic Med North European South Asian East African Southwest Asian East Asian Caucasus Sub Saharan Total
1.33 9.92 0.00 18.30 0.00 0.00 9.13 0.00 0.00 61.32 0.00 0.00 100.00
1.85 9.77 0.00 18.61 0.00 0.00 6.25 0.00 0.00 62.10 0.65 0.77 100.00
0.00 7.91 0.00 18.83 0.00 0.17 7.61 0.06 0.00 64.58 0.00 0.84 100.00

Nepali_Gurung 3 kits
Gedrosia Siberian Northwest African Southeast Asian Atlantic Med North European South Asian East African Southwest Asian East Asian Caucasus Sub Saharan Total
3.40 10.63 0.23 15.65 0.15 0.00 13.94 0.33 0.00 55.68 0.00 0.00 100.01
4.78 9.22 0.00 15.72 0.00 0.75 14.36 0.00 0.00 54.86 0.31 0.00 100.00
3.11 8.29 0.00 17.63 0.00 0.00 13.43 0.13 0.00 56.75 0.00 0.65 99.99

Nepali_Newar_Shrestha 5 kits
16.86 6.26 0.00 10.06 1.87 2.48 29.33 0.00 0.00 32.59 0.56 0.00 100.01
18.74 5.40 0.00 9.48 1.19 2.59 28.83 0.05 0.00 32.31 1.41 0.00 100.00
17.33 5.54 1.04 10.78 0.77 3.18 29.25 0.17 0.00 30.49 1.47 0.00 100.02
15.67 5.94 0.00 11.17 0.05 4.25 27.49 0.00 0.00 33.05 2.15 0.23 100.00
17.47 6.13 0.23 6.21 0.05 3.08 30.16 1.11 0.00 35.11 0.46 0.00 100.01

What no. of kits would you always suggest?

Yeah, pretty homogenous. I think a huge sample size is not necessarily needed in all cases. Like I said some groups are very small and also fairly homogenous. There are 1 billion Han Chinese and 120 million Japanese out there but do we actually need 1000 Chinese kits and 120 Japanese ones in order to make decent averages for those two countries? I don't think so because those aren't very diverse ethnic groups. And also many groups will never have a large number of samples anyway for several apparent reasons.

I think 10-15 decent samples would be okay in many cases. Of course if you have more then use more.

[Bender1999]

These two must be Uzbeks (or very mixed Tajiks)

N-M231
M7c1

Gedrosia 21.53 Pct
Siberian 7.99 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.79 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.53 Pct
North_European 16.62 Pct
South_Asian 8.84 Pct
East_African 0.85 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.41 Pct
East_Asian 18.75 Pct
Caucasus 14.43 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct

Distance to: Bahruddin
7.26438573 Uzbek
10.65168062 Turkmen_TKM
11.48605241 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
11.78793875 Uzbeks
12.54642579 Turkmen_Afghanistan
14.22525219 Tajik_Balkh
15.44825880 Tajik_Tajikistan
15.93941028 Uyghur
17.27113198 Hazara
17.39577535 Tajiks

Distance: 98.0719% / 0.98071854
Target: Bahruddin | ADC: 0.25x RC
40.4 Uzbek
22.9 Tajik_Tajikistan
14.5 Pamiri_Shughnan
10.2 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
7.8 Japanese
3.5 Irish
0.7 Tujia

Gedrosia 20.02 Pct
Siberian 8.74 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.36 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.04 Pct
North_European 16.28 Pct
South_Asian 8.33 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.52 Pct
East_Asian 15.95 Pct
Caucasus 14.61 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.14 Pct

Distance to: Sal
7.30036985 Uzbek
8.01811699 Turkmen_TKM
8.77695277 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
12.48381753 Turkmen_Afghanistan
12.94204775 Uzbeks
13.98428046 Tajik_Balkh
14.75881432 Tajik_Tajikistan
16.94873447 Turkmen
17.37876866 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.41879732 Turkmen_Iran

Distance: 113.7898% / 1.13789835
Target: Sal | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.0 Uzbek
17.2 Tajiks
10.2 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
6.9 Kuwait2
6.0 Dutch_North
3.7 Burmanese

Tadjik from uzbekistan:

Gedrosian: 23.50 Pct
Siberian: 10.45 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.28 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 4.33 Pct
North_European: 16.21 Pct
South_Asian: 5.64 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 4.42 Pct
East_Asian: 16.26 Pct
Caucasus: 17.92 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

Distance to: TajikUzbekistan
6.79933820 Uzbek
6.95344519 Turkmen_TKM
7.35651412 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
10.85355702 Turkmen_Afghanistan
11.84173974 Uzbeks
12.10821209 Tajik_Tajikistan
13.62789419 Tajik_Balkh
14.11035790 Turkmen
14.41222051 Tajiks
14.82069162 Turkmen_Iran
17.75990991 Tajik_Herat
18.38421878 Uyghur
19.01659538 Hazara
19.09585295 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
19.15493409 Pamiri_Shughnan
19.17870955 Yagnobi
19.81155471 Pamiri_Rushan
19.84107104 Pamiri_Ishkashim
20.99423492 Tajik_Kabul
21.57251260 Nogai_Astrakhan
22.06398649 Iran_Khorasan
22.42754110 Karakalpak
22.65090947 Nogai
23.48686654 Pashtun_Kandahar
25.29504102 Turk_Northwest

Target: TajikUzbekistan | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.3 Uzbek
28.4 Tajiks
14.3 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

[Leto]

A Tajik, more likely from Afghanistan

L-M357
U2b2

Gedrosia 32.05 Pct
Siberian 5.44 Pct
Northwest_African 0.64 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 2.05 Pct
North_European 16.24 Pct
South_Asian 12.74 Pct
East_African 1.02 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.72 Pct
East_Asian 6.75 Pct
Caucasus 19.16 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.18 Pct

Distance to: Ilyas
6.99773535 Tajiks
7.07879227 Tajik_Balkh
7.76139807 Tajik_Kabul
7.89941770 Tajik_Herat
8.08996910 Tajik_Tajikistan
8.14421881 Pashtun_Kandahar
8.28421994 Pamiri_Ishkashim
10.34575758 Pamiri_Shughnan
10.94723709 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
11.37575932 Pamiri_Rushan

Distance: 168.2694% / 1.68269351
Target: Ilyas | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.0 Tajiks
26.4 Tajik_Balkh
26.1 Kho
6.4 Kumyks
2.8 Pashtun_Kandahar
2.3 Ethiopian

Distance: 242.0074% / 2.42007381
Target: Ilyas | ADC: 0.5x RC
35.2 Tajiks
32.8 Tajik_Balkh
28.5 Pashtun_Kandahar
3.5 Tajik_Herat

[Leto]

Tadjik from uzbekistan:

I think it isn't new.

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Kars:

Gedrosian: 20.93
Siberian: 3.41
Northwest_African: 1.65
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.20
North_European: 8.34
South_Asian: 1.74
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.68
East_Asian: 4.16
Caucasus: 38.88
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance: 156.4753% / 1.56475349
Target: Azerbaijani_Kars1 | ADC: 0.25x RC
83.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.5 Yazidi
1.8 Sardinian
1.7 Mongol_Khalka
1.6 Tajiks
1.0 Algerian


Distance to: Azerbaijani_Kars1
2.56552139 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.88255095 Azerbaijani
3.47672259 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.53601146 Turk_Southeast
6.04356683 Turk_Central_East
6.52752633 Turk_South
6.63379228 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.11866561 Zaza
7.18597245 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.92444320 Turk_Central_West
7.95239587 Turkmen_Iraq
8.08916559 Yazidi
8.10496761 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.39847605 Turk_East
8.95462450 Kurd_Sorani
8.99879436 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.15943404 Turk_Southwest
10.25637850 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.72246707 Kurd_KAZ
10.73364337 Iranian
10.91516376 Lur_Iran
11.20199536 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.52954032 Iranian_Fars
11.53549739 Syrian_B
11.87090982 Iran_Khorasan

[Aren]

Six Muslims from Aleppo with generic Arabic names

Gedrosia 11.29 Pct
Siberian 2.83 Pct
Northwest_African 5.16 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.2 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.91 Pct
North_European 5.39 Pct
South_Asian 0.14 Pct
East_African 1.72 Pct
Southwest_Asian 18.52 Pct
East_Asian 0.17 Pct
Caucasus 39.2 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.46 Pct

Spoiler!

Distance to: Aleppo_M1
4.22735142 Syrian_A
4.72578036 Lebanese_Muslim
5.71294145 Syrian_B
6.28948329 Nusayri_Turkey
7.19957638 Syrian_C
7.41638726 Turk_Cyprus
8.19222802 Palestinian
9.00646435 Lebanese_Christian
9.45869970 Palestinian_Christian
9.61166479 Greek_Cypriot
9.96730656 Syria_SW_Christian
10.50634094 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.17927100 Turk_Central_East
11.27409420 Turk_Southeast
11.55524989 Iraqi_Jew
11.60173263 Turk_Central_West
11.73435980 Kurdish_Jew
11.86624203 Jordanians
11.98013773 Iranian_Jew
11.99634111 Assyrian_West
12.14485488 Assyrian_South
12.17402563 Greek_Cappadocia
12.29654830 Greek_Kos
12.37723717 Turk_South
12.70931942 Azeri_Jew
12.74793709 Mandean
12.76383955 Assyrian_North
12.92182650 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.12768068 Turk_East
13.35235185 Turk_West_BlackSea

Gedrosia 17.11 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.41 Pct
North_European 4.95 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 2.86 Pct
Southwest_Asian 20.09 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 39.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.19 Pct

Spoiler!

Distance to: Aleppo_M2
4.78072170 Syrian_B
4.86773048 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.59931815 Lebanese_Muslim
7.05493444 Syrian_A
7.17905983 Iranian_Jew
7.38547900 Mandean
7.71796605 Kurdish_Jew
7.77180803 Iraqi_Jew
7.88826977 Turkmen_Iraq
8.69318124 Nusayri_Turkey
8.72178307 Assyrian_South
8.74046909 Azeri_Jew
8.89760080 Syrian_C
9.02917493 Assyrian_West
9.18383362 Assyrian_North
9.71385608 Palestinian
9.88221635 Turk_Southeast
10.30477074 Kurd_Sorani
10.88443843 Lebanese_Christian
10.90885879 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.18973637 Zaza
11.52077254 Turk_East
11.63144015 Palestinian_Christian
11.77917654 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.79982203 Armenian_West
11.91390784 Syria_SW_Christian
11.92327556 Azerbaijani
12.02711520 Jordanians
12.02811290 Turk_Central_East
12.07201723 Yazidi

Gedrosia 15.36 Pct
Siberian 1.73 Pct
Northwest_African 2.64 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.05 Pct
North_European 7.19 Pct
South_Asian 2.02 Pct
East_African 2.23 Pct
Southwest_Asian 16.27 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 38.5 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Spoiler!

Distance to: Aleppo_M3
3.94946832 Syrian_B
6.77549998 Turk_Southeast
7.04509759 Lebanese_Muslim
7.24184369 Syrian_A
7.72159958 Turk_Central_East
8.18918799 Nusayri_Turkey
8.37820983 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.47197734 Turk_Central_West
8.86127530 Turk_Cyprus
9.34615429 Turk_South
9.36562865 Turkmen_Iraq
9.89347765 Azerbaijani
9.97242197 Turk_East
10.08696684 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.35032367 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.38739140 Syrian_C
10.56614878 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.61515897 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.01005904 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.22876218 Iranian_Jew
11.37801389 Assyrian_West
11.42601855 Assyrian_South
11.44872919 Zaza
11.56735925 Azeri_Jew
11.59831453 Mandean
11.60716589 Turk_Southwest
11.61650980 Kurd_Sorani
11.73720580 Kurdish_Jew
11.77876904 Assyrian_North
11.81904395 Palestinian

Gedrosia 14.86 Pct
Siberian 0.09 Pct
Northwest_African 4.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.07 Pct
North_European 2.64 Pct
South_Asian 2.14 Pct
East_African 2.74 Pct
Southwest_Asian 21.57 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 38.74 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Spoiler!

Distance to: Aleppo_M4
3.90628980 Lebanese_Muslim
4.32404903 Syrian_A
4.90299908 Syrian_B
5.45424605 Syrian_C
6.47088093 Palestinian
6.54135307 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.61329721 Nusayri_Turkey
7.77713958 Lebanese_Christian
7.86797941 Iraqi_Jew
8.27298012 Iranian_Jew
8.31903240 Kurdish_Jew
8.42530118 Palestinian_Christian
8.55831175 Syria_SW_Christian
8.62982039 Mandean
9.54695763 Jordanians
9.99308761 Assyrian_South
10.19662199 Assyrian_West
10.48167448 Azeri_Jew
10.69769601 Assyrian_North
11.08560779 Turkmen_Iraq
11.74930211 Turk_Cyprus
12.00462411 Greek_Cypriot
12.20317582 Turk_Southeast
13.23636279 Armenian_West
13.46249605 Kurd_Sorani
13.91175762 Turk_Central_East
14.21548803 Turk_East
14.24257350 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.66357051 Zaza
14.68958815 Greek_Cappadocia

Gedrosia 18.05 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 5.75 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.47 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.9 Pct
North_European 3.79 Pct
South_Asian 1.26 Pct
East_African 0.82 Pct
Southwest_Asian 18.17 Pct
East_Asian 2.16 Pct
Caucasus 37.62 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Spoiler!

Distance to: Aleppo_M5
4.30923427 Syrian_B
5.91148036 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.55481304 Turkmen_Iraq
7.86816370 Lebanese_Muslim
8.25001212 Syrian_A
8.74550742 Mandean
8.95327314 Iranian_Jew
9.01618545 Turk_Southeast
9.57462793 Syrian_C
9.59567611 Nusayri_Turkey
9.68449276 Iraqi_Jew
9.78700158 Kurdish_Jew
10.08140367 Kurd_Sorani
10.45435794 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.60917527 Azeri_Jew
10.61459844 Assyrian_South
10.81582174 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.90207320 Palestinian
10.93912245 Assyrian_West
10.94784454 Azerbaijani
11.07938626 Assyrian_North
11.21880564 Zaza
11.25213757 Yazidi
11.26755075 Turk_Central_East
11.41804274 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.11288570 Turk_East
12.23427971 Lebanese_Christian
12.38271376 Turk_South
12.46870482 Turk_Central_West
13.18926836 Turk_Cyprus

Gedrosia 14.44 Pct
Siberian 0.85 Pct
Northwest_African 4.96 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12 Pct
North_European 4.2 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 3.19 Pct
Southwest_Asian 18.95 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 40.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.34 Pct

Spoiler!

Distance to: Aleppo_M6
3.85206438 Syrian_B
4.30082550 Lebanese_Muslim
4.36224713 Syrian_A
6.38899836 Nusayri_Turkey
7.10855822 Syrian_C
7.37482881 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.07469504 Palestinian
8.52097999 Iraqi_Jew
8.64111683 Kurdish_Jew
8.64522990 Iranian_Jew
9.00372701 Lebanese_Christian
9.19171366 Mandean
9.31199227 Assyrian_South
9.38933970 Assyrian_West
9.68897827 Azeri_Jew
9.76858741 Palestinian_Christian
9.93717767 Assyrian_North
10.13449061 Syria_SW_Christian
10.36592977 Turk_Cyprus
10.49462243 Turkmen_Iraq
10.55231254 Turk_Southeast
11.16730943 Jordanians
11.61002153 Turk_Central_East
11.67230483 Armenian_West
11.71978669 Greek_Cypriot
11.73395500 Turk_East
12.93284578 Turk_Central_West
13.00211521 Kurd_Sorani
13.07816501 Greek_Cappadocia
13.10066029 Kurd_Kurmanji