Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

[Leto]

Georgians (reactivated kits, previously unavailable). I have another large Georgian account, will be processing those kits later

#1

Gedrosia 19.24 Pct
Siberian 1.13 Pct
Northwest_African 0.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.32 Pct
North_European 11.07 Pct
South_Asian 0.17 Pct
East_African 0.08 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.84 Pct
East_Asian 0.44 Pct
Caucasus 56.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ani
3.35819892 Abkhazian
3.37924548 Georgian
3.52423041 Georgian_Gurian
4.53533902 Georgian_Svan
5.12870354 Georgian_Imereti
5.73767374 Georgian_Mingrelian
6.44806172 Turk_Ahiska
7.22382862 Georgian_Turkey
8.55595115 Ossetian_South
8.64647905 Georgian_Adjara

Target: Ani
Distance: 1.4242% / 1.42421160 | ADC: 0.5x RC
48.9 Georgian_Gurian
47.5 Abkhazian
3.6 Kuwait2

#2

R-L23
T2c1b

Gedrosia 18.55 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.75 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.44 Pct
North_European 9.7 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.3 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.76 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 56.5 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Roman
3.39057517 Georgian
4.54172875 Georgian_Gurian
4.85564620 Georgian_Imereti
5.09393757 Turk_Ahiska
5.89180787 Abkhazian
5.90160995 Georgian_Turkey
6.57005327 Georgian_Mingrelian
6.86263798 Georgian_Svan
7.03861492 Laz
7.15366340 Georgian_Adjara

Target: Roman
Distance: 1.0755% / 1.07551118 | ADC: 0.25x RC
71.1 Georgian_Gurian
12.0 Georgian
10.7 Georgian_Imereti
6.2 Kuwait2

#3

Gedrosia 18.96 Pct
Siberian 0.36 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.08 Pct
North_European 8.55 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.08 Pct
Southwest_Asian 5.72 Pct
East_Asian 1.2 Pct
Caucasus 61.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: David
1.41255088 Georgian_Mingrelian
2.59557315 Georgian_Imereti
3.33904178 Georgian_Gurian
4.53405999 Georgian_Svan
5.56895861 Georgian_Turkey
6.70417034 Georgian
6.96267190 Georgian_Adjara
6.97169276 Abkhazian
8.82066891 Laz
9.56565209 Turk_Ahiska

Target: David
Distance: 1.1297% / 1.12974278
86.5 Georgian_Mingrelian
13.5 Georgian_Turkey

[RatCat]

Hemshin results

Population
Gedrosia 17.85 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.62 Pct
North_European 2.21 Pct
South_Asian 1.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.81 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 56.85 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Distance to: **
3.03945719 Hemshin
3.74857306 Laz
5.08129905 Georgian_Adjara
5.21605215 Greek_Pontus
5.35778872 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.31643095 Georgian_Turkey
7.93452582 Turk_Ahiska
8.53433067 Armenian_East
9.07279450 Armenian_West
9.35736074 Georgian_Imereti
9.75948257 Georgian
11.77699452 Georgian_Gurian
12.10671301 Georgian_Mingrelian
12.19608954 Assyrian_North
12.38856731 Assyrian_West
12.50838918 Azeri_Jew
12.60994845 Turk_East
12.69321472 Assyrian_South
12.97127210 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.86353851 Abkhazian
14.31550558 Georgian_Svan
15.22936309 Greek_Cappadocia
15.60460189 Kurdish_Jew
15.90698274 Iranian_Jew
16.35824563 Iraqi_Jew


Target: **
Distance: 2.2965% / 2.29653898 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.7 Georgian_Adjara
29.7 Greek_Pontus
11.9 Assyrian_South
0.7 Pulliyar


Target: **
Distance: 2.5992% / 2.59919982 | ADC: 0.5x RC
46.8 Hemshin
37.7 Georgian_Adjara
15.5 Assyrian_North

[Leto]

Some Pamiri (not new but recently reactivated). His Med is very high but other components don't indicate mixed ancestry, so that's probably all Aryanic

Gedrosia 31.19 Pct
Siberian 6.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.26 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.22 Pct
North_European 20.87 Pct
South_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.06 Pct
East_Asian 3.95 Pct
Caucasus 19.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: axel
5.31214646 Pamiri_Rushan
5.50505223 Tajik_Lowland
5.61247717 Pamiri_Shughnan
5.68164589 Yagnobi
6.60589888 Tajik_Mountain
8.24745415 Pamiri_Ishkashim
12.29492578 Tajik_Herat
13.41123037 Pashtun_Kandahar
15.20568644 Tajik_Kabul
15.72897962 Turkmen_TM

Target: axel
Distance: 1.3353% / 1.33532193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Yagnobi
21.1 Pamiri_Rushan
10.3 Burusho
4.6 Tajik_Mountain
2.9 Spanish_Basque
2.9 Yukagir

Target: axel
Distance: 2.2629% / 2.26291492 | R3P
82.4 Yagnobi
8.8 Altaian_Chelkan
8.8 Sindhi

Distance to: axel
2.91170704 57.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 42.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.98120388 77.80% Pamiri_Rushan + 22.20% Turkmen_TM
3.08379377 80.00% Pamiri_Rushan + 20.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.28855562 82.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 17.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.39380968 56.00% Pamiri_Shughnan + 44.00% Tajik_Mountain
3.40650768 77.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 22.60% Turkmen_TM
3.42066034 51.40% Pamiri_Rushan + 48.60% Tajik_Lowland
3.46056924 87.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 12.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.49090670 86.20% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.80% Turk_Southwest
3.53212994 86.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.20% Turk_South

[Zoro]

Some Pamiri (not new but recently reactivated). His Med is very high but other components don't indicate mixed ancestry, so that's probably all Aryanic

Gedrosia 31.19 Pct
Siberian 6.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.26 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.22 Pct
North_European 20.87 Pct
South_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.06 Pct
East_Asian 3.95 Pct
Caucasus 19.54 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: axel
5.31214646 Pamiri_Rushan
5.50505223 Tajik_Lowland
5.61247717 Pamiri_Shughnan
5.68164589 Yagnobi
6.60589888 Tajik_Mountain
8.24745415 Pamiri_Ishkashim
12.29492578 Tajik_Herat
13.41123037 Pashtun_Kandahar
15.20568644 Tajik_Kabul
15.72897962 Turkmen_TM

Target: axel
Distance: 1.3353% / 1.33532193 | ADC: 0.25x RC
58.2 Yagnobi
21.1 Pamiri_Rushan
10.3 Burusho
4.6 Tajik_Mountain
2.9 Spanish_Basque
2.9 Yukagir

Target: axel
Distance: 2.2629% / 2.26291492 | R3P
82.4 Yagnobi
8.8 Altaian_Chelkan
8.8 Sindhi

Distance to: axel
2.91170704 57.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 42.80% Tajik_Mountain
2.98120388 77.80% Pamiri_Rushan + 22.20% Turkmen_TM
3.08379377 80.00% Pamiri_Rushan + 20.00% Turkmen_Iran
3.28855562 82.20% Pamiri_Rushan + 17.80% Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.39380968 56.00% Pamiri_Shughnan + 44.00% Tajik_Mountain
3.40650768 77.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 22.60% Turkmen_TM
3.42066034 51.40% Pamiri_Rushan + 48.60% Tajik_Lowland
3.46056924 87.40% Pamiri_Shughnan + 12.60% Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.49090670 86.20% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.80% Turk_Southwest
3.53212994 86.80% Pamiri_Shughnan + 13.20% Turk_South

It just occurred to me this calculator is not balanced well because there are 3 components very relevant to W. Asians; Caucasian, SW Asian, and Atlantic-Med, but for C Asians there’s only Gedrosian and maybe S Indian a little.

This calculator could have been made a little more balanced by adding another C Asian component such as Tajik or Persian. What do you think would happen to the Siberian, E Asian, SE Asian, S Indian scores of Pamiri if a Persian or Tajik component was added to this calculator?

That’s why a 1-to-1 population comparison is more informative because it’s not affected by what components the calculator uses

[Impaler]

It just occurred to me this calculator is not balanced well because there are 3 components very relevant to W. Asians; Caucasian, SW Asian, and Atlantic-Med, but for C Asians there’s only Gedrosian and maybe S Indian a little.

This calculator could have been made a little more balanced by adding another C Asian component such as Tajik or Persian. What do you think would happen to the Siberian, E Asian, SE Asian, S Indian scores of Pamiri if a Persian or Tajik component was added to this calculator?

That’s why a 1-to-1 population comparison is more informative because it’s not affected by what components the calculator uses

What is in your opinion the most balanced calculator for West Asians/Central Asians?

[Zoro]

What is in your opinion the most balanced calculator for West Asians/Central Asians?

I think all the ones on Gedmatch are European and W Asian heavy as far as components and Central Asian light. It might be that when those calculators were made there was a shortage of C Asian public samples and so they were made heavy with W Asian and European references.

The main issue with calculators that only have 1 C Asian component is that the S Asian/Siberian/E Asian will be exaggerated for C Asians in comparison to the S Asian/Siberian/E Asian for W Asians.

If you ever become interested in studying Admixture based calculators you'll see a big disclaimer by the creators of the Admixture software which basically says something like " it's assumed that the calculator references are the actual ancestral populations for the population being tested".

This assumption is not realistic in the case of a calculator based on modern references because those moderns are not the actual ancestral to the test subject in most cases therefore the results should be viewed with caution.

Back when those Gedmatch calculators were made there was a shortage of ancient DNA so moderns were used. Now though we have plenty of ancient samples which can be used to create calculators with truly ancestral populations and thus the results would be more informative.

[Kyp]

Some Pamiri (not new but recently reactivated). His Med is very high but other components don't indicate mixed ancestry, so that's probably all Aryanic

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It's from Gorno Badakhshan

[Leto]

(btw i still don’t understand why nomansmen is banned, he was a nice and clever guy)

That motherfucker was banned for posting child porn. He is a sick piece of shit.

[Leto]

Hi, im nomansman and i have mainly made this account to adress this:

I have NEVER posted child porn before. Never done that. Thats BS. I dont know what leto is talking about

I fucking saw it with my own eyes. And it was Loki who banned you. Now I'm reporting you again. Leave this forum the fuck alone, you bastard.

[The Lawspeaker]

Let's leave that to the Staff. Reported.