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Thread: Is Lazar Novovic's physique attainable naturally? Without the use of anabolic steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    His pre-physique isn't elite thus he doesn't have elite genes. Men with elite genes will have wide shoulders and V shaped body naturally, something he doesn't have.
    Conclusion: steroids.
    That’s complete bullshit. Elite genetics means you have the androgen receptors and muscle cells to grow the muscle. People with elite genetics can become anorexic and nobody will know about their potential. He actually has a decent starting frame too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM78GREENSAVANNAH View Post
    That’s complete bullshit. Elite genetics means you have the androgen receptors and muscle cells to grow the muscle. People with elite genetics can become anorexic and nobody will know about their potential. He actually has a decent starting frame too.
    I know guys with lot better starting frame that never lifted. By elite I meant elite bone structure (but also tendency to be lean), I guess you had different thing in your mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM78GREENSAVANNAH View Post
    That’s complete bullshit. Elite genetics means you have the androgen receptors and muscle cells to grow the muscle. People with elite genetics can become anorexic and nobody will know about their potential. He actually has a decent starting frame too.
    The biochemical process behind muscle development simple explained, and yes thats what matters.

    I think Stearsolina talks about the aesthetic aspect but muscle development alone is just a biochemical genetic lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    Look up pre steroid era bodybuilders like Eugen Sandow, these guys are the only one we can be sure of, being natural.

    Id say with modern supplements and similar genetics you can attain a bit more lean mass than sandow. Your guy looks like Frank Zane a elite Bodybuilder that admits his steroid use.
    Sandow was only 175 and Zane is an extreme ectomorph, if you have descent genetics you can get bigger naturally, espcially considering modern supplements, level of workout knowledge and sport equipment.

    Even at Sandow's era there were people with bigger physic like George Hackenschmidt f.e.




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    Quote Originally Posted by EM78GREENSAVANNAH View Post
    That’s complete bullshit. Elite genetics means you have the androgen receptors and muscle cells to grow the muscle. People with elite genetics can become anorexic and nobody will know about their potential. He actually has a decent starting frame too.
    Pretty true, plus it's about what you eat aside from genetics. If you eat foods that don't process into tissue easily you are gonna be less swole, eggs are the best food to tack on mass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    His pre-physique isn't elite thus he doesn't have elite genes. Men with elite genes will have wide shoulders and V shaped body naturally, something he doesn't have.
    Conclusion: steroids.
    Lazar has good genetics. He looked in shape even in the 'before photos'.
    Having a 'V shaped body' doesn't imply muscularity. My friend has that naturally (tiny waist and hips+wide shoulders compared to his lower body) but he's skinny and has inferiority complex because of how he is built. He tried to gain fat by eating chocolate and other high carb foods all the time, but he was unable. He also has trouble building muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Cop View Post
    Sandow was only 175 and Zane is an extreme ectomorph, if you have descent genetics you can get bigger naturally, espcially considering modern supplements, level of workout knowledge and sport equipment.

    Even at Sandow's era there were people with bigger physic like George Hackenschmidt f.e.



    Hackenschmidt wasnt as lean, we gotta relate the muscle mass to the body fat percantage, if your natty a low % bodyfat will negatively affect your muscle mass long turn, thats why Sandow is so impressive.

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    This runt of the litter is natty for sure.

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