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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    The correlation between marxism and "cultural marxism" is not really that large. Cultural marxist, which I'd say you correlate with the Frankfurt school, critical race theory and the "deconstruct the norm" types. I also feel like marxist philosophy, which hinges around the idea that power stems from economic control is legitimate, and the fact that some wacky professors conclude that it means we must abolish masculinity or whiteness or whatever doesn't negate that.
    I think you make some good points. I'm in no way an expert, but the more I try to study this issue the more I find that "classical Marxism" is a very different thing from the ideas of these "woke" intellectuals. Yes, they use Marxist concepts like critical theory from the Frankfurt School, but the latter had already been criticized long ago by "orthodox Marxists". I think nowadays there are not many classical Marxists left. These new leftist/liberal intellectuals and their followers are using a mix of different ideas to attack traditional societies and values, but class conflict, a central tenet of Marxism, doesn't seem to be their focus. And the fact that they are supported by liberals that at the same time stand for capitalism and free market seems to suggest that there is little Marx in this new left. That is a problem when trying to find correct definitions. Maybe the term "Neo-leftists/Neo-liberals" would be more appropriate than Cultural Marxists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Pill View Post
    I think you make some good points. I'm in no way an expert, but the more I try to study this issue the more I find that "classical Marxism" is a very different thing from the ideas of these "woke" intellectuals. Yes, they use Marxist concepts like critical theory from the Frankfurt School, but the latter had already been criticized long ago by "orthodox Marxists". I think nowadays there are not many classical Marxists left. These new leftist/liberal intellectuals and their followers are using a mix of different ideas to attack traditional societies and values, but class conflict, a central tenet of Marxism, doesn't seem to be their focus. And the fact that they are supported by liberals that at the same time stand for capitalism and free market seems to suggest that there is little Marx in this new left. That is a problem when trying to find correct definitions. Maybe the term "Neo-leftists/Neo-liberals" would be more appropriate than Cultural Marxists.
    It seems that the people on the left today have adopted a combination of critical race theory, wokeness, counter culture and economic issues seem to take a backstep to that. Some lean more on woke capitalism, some more towards social democracy, but it seems they can compromise. I think it has to do with the fact that leftism went from being dominated by socialist politicans, unions, workers and low class white men (who were sorta united) to all sorts of whacky diversity counselors, professors, college students etc. Ecomonic issue will off course not take such a large importance when most of leftist intelligentsia is comprised of above-income people. Off course corporations in the west are very happy about this, which has led to the wacky idea that modern day large corporations are "marxist", which is like saying that a jew is a nazi....

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    Well is he a member of that conservative church or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RN97 View Post
    It seems that the people on the left today have adopted a combination of critical race theory, wokeness, counter culture and economic issues seem to take a backstep to that. Some lean more on woke capitalism, some more towards social democracy, but it seems they can compromise. I think it has to do with the fact that leftism went from being dominated by socialist politicans, unions, workers and low class white men (who were sorta united) to all sorts of whacky diversity counselors, professors, college students etc. Ecomonic issue will off course not take such a large importance when most of leftist intelligentsia is comprised of above-income people. Off course corporations in the west are very happy about this, which has led to the wacky idea that modern day large corporations are "marxist", which is like saying that a jew is a nazi....
    Large corporations who issue their woke diversity statements and do CRT/White Fragility garbage do it to avoid the mob. The leftist politicians are in bed with the big corporations strictly for power and at the top maybe 5% are true believers. Nothing more that a power grab. Now the Leftist Academia and their indoctrinated cannon fodder are true believers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianV View Post
    Large corporations who issue their woke diversity statements and do CRT/White Fragility garbage do it to avoid the mob. The leftist politicians are in bed with the big corporations strictly for power and at the top maybe 5% are true believers. Nothing more that a power grab. Now the Leftist Academia and their indoctrinated cannon fodder are true believers.
    It's nothing new as people claim though. Whatever big corporations promote is what they think will resonate with most of their consumers. I remember the iconic meme where Bethesda or some company turned all their twitter accounts to the LGBT rainbow except for the middle eastern one. It's just how capitalism works, if you get an edge with your consumers, you must and should take it.

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