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    Civil unions are not the same as marriage, Civil union is a contract betwenn two people, with the state taking part as a guarantor.

    Marriage is a sacrament or blessing, granted by a religious institution. The catholic church says that they dont care what the state does with their public polices , as long they don't force religious institutions to adopt them.

    According to the catholic church marriage/matrimony is a prerogative of religious institutions and the state should abstain to use this terms. The concep of civil marriage is blasphemous and should be replaced for civil unions for everybody.
    the pope does not support giving blessings to same sex marriages, dont get your selves be brain wash by the media
    The LGBTQ movement claim equal marriges from everybody, they oppose this position, and the concep of civil unions because its discriminatory.
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    Id have guessed that this whore of satan that calls himself the pope would know the catechism.

    2335 Each of the two sexes is an image of the power and tenderness of God, with equal dignity though in a different way. The union of man and woman in marriage is a way of imitating in the flesh the Creator's generosity and fecundity: "Therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh."121 All human generations proceed from this union.


    2337 Chastity means the successful integration of sexuality within the person and thus the inner unity of man in his bodily and spiritual being. Sexuality, in which man's belonging to the bodily and biological world is expressed, becomes personal and truly human when it is integrated into the relationship of one person to another, in the complete and lifelong mutual gift of a man and a woman.

    The virtue of chastity therefore involves the integrity of the person and the integrality of the gift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques de Imbelloni View Post
    Civil unions are not the same as marriage, Civil union is a contract betwenn two people, with the state taking part as a guarantor.

    Marriage is a sacrament or blessing, granted by a religious institution. The catholic church says that they dont care what the state does with their public polices , as long they don't force religious institutions to adopt them.

    According to the catholic church marriage/matrimony is a prerogative of religious institutions and the state should abstain to use this terms. The concep of civil marriage is blasphemous and should be replaced for civil unions for everybody.
    the pope does not support giving blessing to same sex marriages, dont get your selves be brain wash by the media
    The LGBTQ movement claim equal marriges from everybody, they oppose this position, and the concep of civil unions because its discriminatory.
    He should speak out AGAINST any recognition of homosexual relationships, but he speaks FOR IT.

    Poland has no civil partnership or whatever, he should praise them instead of pressure them.

    Hes a whore of babylon, straight up.

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    Saying practizing homosexuals need a exorcism and go to hell.

    That would be a biblical and catechism confirmed statement of a cleric.

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    Such a weak and ignorant church that is following modernosm and liberalism, that has no dogmas and dont realizes gods word is timeless the way it is. Deserves every member leaving it and is a cause of the decline of catholicism itself. Pandering a atheist left works great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutone View Post
    He should speak out AGAINST any recognition of homosexual relationships, but he speaks FOR IT.

    Poland has no civil partnership or whatever, he should praise them instead of pressure them.

    Hes a whore of babylon, straight up.
    In the contex of the same sex marriage law in argentina at 2010, gays were asking for gay marriage, the more civic way to resolve the ishue was, let the state sactions any crazy contrat betwen two people, as long they dont force us to give blessings to a union contra natura.
    Most of the people who opossed same sex marriage had the same opinion.
    keep marriage a religios institution, and put and en to "civil marriages" wich are nothing but a contract, made to be dissolve at will.
    It's a realistic approach in the context of a secularized republic which is openly hostile to catholic faith.
    This position is the completely opposite of those lutheran churches that openly bless same sex unions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacques de Imbelloni View Post
    In the contex of the same sex marriage law in argentina at 2010, gays were asking for gay marriage, the more civic way to resolve the ishue was, let the state sactions any crazy contrat betwen two people, as long they dont force us to give blessings to a union contra natura.
    Most of the people who opesse same sax marriage was of the same opinion.
    keep marriage a religios institution, and put and en to "civil marriages" wich are nothing but a contract, made to be dissolve at will.
    It's a realistic approach in the context of a secularized republic which is openly hostile to catholic faith.
    Nope its giving in to the zeitgeist.
    If the catholic church decides to not advocate for religious values in politics or even worse ACTIVELY SUPPORT SECULAR interpretations of marriage, it lost totally to modernism.

    Catholicism sold itself, it killed itseld, its gone.

    Pius X saw it coming.

    Leaks of freemason lodge propaganda due already revealed freemasons influenced the highest rank of the catholic church, no wonder how pedophilia became rampant.

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    Gay people hate pope francis;

    La unión civil es discriminatoria

    12/07/2010 - por Pablo
    El Inadi sacó un informe que califica el proyecto de unión civil que tuvo dictamen de comisión en Senadores la semana pasada como discriminatorio. Más allá de la definición política, el informe es interesante porque pone en blanco sobre negro las razones por las cuales el proyecto alternativo de la derecha naturalista es inaceptable.

    http://artepolitica.com/comunidad/la...scriminatoria/

    They say civic unions are discriminatory, they want to be bless by a priest, even if they are atheistic.

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    I thought the whole point of a decent religion, like the Catholic Church, was to uphold its traditional values in the face of contemporary trends and fluctuations and decadence. But I can't say we didn't see it coming...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JosephK View Post
    I thought the whole point of a decent religion, like the Catholic Church, was to uphold its traditional values in the face of contemporary trends and fluctuations and decadence. But I can't say we didn't see it coming...
    There are guys like Jaques that would defend the pope praying at mecca, I know that kind of catholics in my private life. With sheeps like that, a pope can do what he wantsm

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