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    Hi, is there any way to tell If I have Balkan Turkish ancestry, i mean most likely i have it, considering my ancestor was from Silistra province, but I do not know how much
    Genealogically I did not prove my Sephardic ancestry, which can be confused with Turkish, I proved it only by matches, other tests, so I do not know exact percentage, Sephardic Jews also have similiar to Balkan Turks results on many tests


    On Eurogenes K13 i can model myself as 87,5 East European 6,25 Bulgarian 6,25 Middle Eastern

    or also in that way

    Target: Abriekman
    Distance: 4.4122% / 4.41220944
    85.4 Polish
    14.6 Turk_Drama

    Target: Abriekman
    Distance: 4.6782% / 4.67823487
    89.6 Polish
    5.6 Bulgaria_average
    4.8 Turkmen

    Maybe you can recommend good calculator for detecting it or rejecting it. I saw usually Bulgarians do not score Turkmen, while I score some, but I am not saying anything, i need person who wants help me with it

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    Post Dodecad k12 ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    Post Dodecad k12 ?
    Population
    Gedrosia 5.64 Pct
    Siberian 0.66 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 21.98 Pct
    North_European 49.98 Pct
    South_Asian 0.49 Pct
    East_African -
    Southwest_Asian 2.98 Pct
    East_Asian -
    Caucasus 17.49 Pct
    Sub_Saharan -

    I do not know if it is representative , even If I have it it is maximum 1/8

    If I use vahaduo with Eastern European and Balkan Turk samples it is overestimating it if it is to 16%

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    I don't think it possible to detect 1/8 ancestry for sure. You can model like 1/4 & 1/8 Bulgarian or Balkan Turk:


    Code:
      [1,] "10.5% Laz + 89.5% Ukrainian"                        "1.0715"
      [2,] "10.5% Hemshin + 89.5% Ukrainian"                    "1.1052"
      [3,] "10.7% Greek_Pontus + 89.3% Ukrainian"               "1.1499"
      [4,] "10.1% Georgian_Adjara + 89.9% Ukrainian"            "1.1642"
      [5,] "10.8% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 89.2% Ukrainian"        "1.1879"
      [6,] "15.2% Greek_Cappadocia + 84.8% PL_Mazovia"          "1.1967"
      [7,] "14% Armenian_West + 86% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.2161"
      [8,] "10.2% Georgian_Turkey + 89.8% Ukrainian"            "1.2463"
      [9,] "11.1% Turk_Ahiska + 88.9% Ukrainian"                "1.2758"
     [10,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Greek_Cappadocia"         "1.3455"
     [11,] "11.2% Armenian_East + 88.8% Ukrainian"              "1.3497"
     [12,] "13.9% Assyrian_West + 86.1% PL_Mazovia"             "1.3828"
     [13,] "11% Georgian_mixed + 89% Ukrainian"                 "1.3909"
     [14,] "10.3% Georgian_Imereti + 89.7% Ukrainian"           "1.3927"
     [15,] "13.8% Assyrian_North + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"            "1.4423"
     [16,] "13.8% Assyrian_South + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"            "1.4499"
     [17,] "14.5% Armenian_East + 85.5% PL_Mazovia"             "1.488" 
     [18,] "13.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"     "1.5073"
     [19,] "10.8% Armenian_West + 89.2% Ukrainian"              "1.5157"
     [20,] "14.6% Nusayri_Turkey + 85.4% PL_Mazovia"            "1.5159"
     [21,] "13.8% Azeri_Jew + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.5217"
     [22,] "84.8% PL_Mazovia + 15.2% Turk_East"                 "1.5401"
     [23,] "10.6% Georgian_Gurian + 89.4% Ukrainian"            "1.5423"
     [24,] "15% Armenian_West + 85% Belorussian"                "1.55"  
     [25,] "11.8% Turk_East + 88.2% Ukrainian"                  "1.5801"
     [26,] "10.3% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.7% Ukrainian"        "1.5902"
     [27,] "11.7% Udi_Azerbaijan + 88.3% Ukrainian"             "1.5986"
     [28,] "13.7% Greek_Pontus + 86.3% PL_Mazovia"              "1.5999"
     [29,] "11.7% Greek_Cappadocia + 88.3% Ukrainian"           "1.6234"
     [30,] "17.6% Greek_Izmir + 82.4% Rus_Smolensk"             "1.6298"
     [31,] "19.3% Greek_Foca + 80.7% Rus_Smolensk"              "1.6366"
     [32,] "85.3% Belorussian + 14.7% Greek_Pontus"             "1.6694"
     [33,] "18.3% Greek_Crete + 81.7% PL_Mazovia"               "1.6937"
     [34,] "10.3% Georgia_Jews + 89.7% Ukrainian"               "1.6994"
     [35,] "10.9% Georgian_Svan + 89.1% PL_GreaterPoland"       "1.7005"
     [36,] "11.5% Abkhazian + 88.5% PL_GreaterPoland"           "1.711" 
     [37,] "11.1% Abkhazian + 88.9% Ukrainian"                  "1.7117"
     [38,] "28.1% Bulgarian_East + 71.9% Rus_Smolensk"          "1.7159"
     [39,] "15.5% Armenian_East + 84.5% Belorussian"            "1.7183"
     [40,] "17.1% Greek_Kos + 82.9% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.7213"
     [41,] "32.1% Pomak + 67.9% Rus_Smolensk"                   "1.7215"
     [42,] "11% Georgian_Gurian + 89% PL_GreaterPoland"         "1.7226"
     [43,] "24.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 75.6% Rus_Smolensk"        "1.7287"
     [44,] "13.6% Iraqi_Jew + 86.4% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.7292"
     [45,] "28% Greek_Macedonia + 72% Rus_Smolensk"             "1.7421"
     [46,] "83.6% PL_Mazovia + 16.4% Turk_Central_East"         "1.748" 
     [47,] "10.6% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7565"
     [48,] "16.9% Greek_Crete + 83.1% Rus_Smolensk"             "1.7661"
     [49,] "13.7% Iranian_Jew + 86.3% PL_Mazovia"               "1.7729"
     [50,] "13.9% Greek_Cappadocia + 86.1% Rus_Smolensk"        "1.7773"
     [51,] "21.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 78.1% PL_Mazovia"    "1.7789"
     [52,] "15.8% Greek_Kos + 84.2% Rus_Smolensk"               "1.7811"
     [53,] "20.5% Greek_Central + 79.5% Rus_Smolensk"           "1.784" 
     [54,] "86.1% PL_Mazovia + 13.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea"       "1.7893"
     [55,] "28.3% MD_Gagauz + 71.7% Rus_Smolensk"               "1.7967"
     [56,] "30.4% Bulgarian_Central + 69.6% Rus_Smolensk"       "1.7999"
     [57,] "10.5% Georgian_Svan + 89.5% Ukrainian"              "1.8069"
     [58,] "21.6% Greek_Peloponnese + 78.4% Rus_Smolensk"       "1.8082"
     [59,] "13.4% Georgia_Jews + 86.6% PL_Mazovia"              "1.8183"
     [60,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Turk_East"                "1.8207"
     [61,] "85% PL_Mazovia + 15% Udi_Azerbaijan"                "1.8306"
     [62,] "50.5% Latvian + 49.5% MD_Gagauz"                    "1.8307"
     [63,] "82% PL_Mazovia + 18% Turk_West_BlackSea"            "1.8342"
     [64,] "13.6% Mandean + 86.4% PL_Mazovia"                   "1.8383"
     [65,] "20.3% Greek_Athens + 79.7% Rus_Smolensk"            "1.8392"
     [66,] "23.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 76.9% Rus_Smolensk"      "1.8425"
     [67,] "14.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 85.2% PL_Mazovia"           "1.8492"
     [68,] "19% Greek_Izmir + 81% PL_Mazovia"                   "1.8508"
     [69,] "84.7% PL_Mazovia + 15.3% Syrian_B"                  "1.8531"
     [70,] "82.9% PL_Mazovia + 17.1% Turk_Central_West"         "1.8552"
     [71,] "85.1% Belorussian + 14.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea"      "1.8554"
     [72,] "13.1% Ossetian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland"            "1.8587"
     [73,] "54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% MD_Gagauz"                 "1.8605"
     [74,] "13.1% Circassian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland"          "1.8634"
     [75,] "10.6% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 89.4% Ukrainian"      "1.8716"
     [76,] "14% Balkar + 86% PL_GreaterPoland"                  "1.878" 
     [77,] "10.6% Assyrian_North + 89.4% Ukrainian"             "1.8811"
     [78,] "10.6% Assyrian_West + 89.4% Ukrainian"              "1.8832"
     [79,] "10.6% Georgian_Imereti + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland"    "1.8874"
     [80,] "29.9% Greek_Macedonia + 70.1% Rus_Kostroma"         "1.8952"
     [81,] "14.9% Assyrian_West + 85.1% Belorussian"            "1.8982"
     [82,] "49.1% Greek_Macedonia + 50.9% Latvian"              "1.9073"
     [83,] "13.3% Cypriots + 86.7% Rus_Smolensk"                "1.9109"
     [84,] "85.2% PL_Mazovia + 14.8% Syrian_A"                  "1.9114"
     [85,] "31.3% Bulgarian_West + 68.7% Rus_Smolensk"          "1.9118"
     [86,] "13.3% Kumyks + 86.7% PL_GreaterPoland"              "1.9187"
     [87,] "71% PL_Mazovia + 29% Turk_Deliorman"                "1.9261"
     [88,] "10.6% Azeri_Jew + 89.4% Ukrainian"                  "1.9288"
     [89,] "10.6% Assyrian_South + 89.4% Ukrainian"             "1.9312"
     [90,] "30% Bulgarian_East + 70% Rus_Kostroma"              "1.9358"
     [91,] "11.3% Georgian_mixed + 88.7% PL_GreaterPoland"      "1.9394"
     [92,] "80.4% Belorussian + 19.6% Greek_Crete"              "1.9432"
     [93,] "39.4% Lithuanian + 60.6% MD_Center"                 "1.9505"
     [94,] "14.8% Assyrian_North + 85.2% Belorussian"           "1.9509"
     [95,] "13.4% Hemshin + 86.6% PL_Mazovia"                   "1.9553"
     [96,] "34.1% Pomak + 65.9% Rus_Kostroma"                   "1.9593"
     [97,] "18.9% Italy_Apulia + 81.1% Rus_Smolensk"            "1.9675"
     [98,] "32.4% Bulgarian_Central + 67.6% Rus_Kostroma"       "1.9694"
     [99,] "22.9% Greek_Thrace + 77.1% Rus_Smolensk"            "1.9733"
    [100,] "75.2% Rus_Smolensk + 24.8% Turk_Makedonya"          "1.9748"
    [101,] "14.8% Assyrian_South + 85.2% Belorussian"           "1.9773"
    [102,] "81.7% Belorussian + 18.3% Greek_Kos"                "1.9821"
    [103,] "83% PL_Mazovia + 17% Turk_Anatolia"                 "1.9912"
    [104,] "12.5% Circassian + 87.5% Ukrainian"                 "1.9958"
    [105,] "85.2% Belorussian + 14.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya"    "2.0008"
    [106,] "49.2% Bulgarian_East + 50.8% Latvian"               "2.0013"
    [107,] "31.5% MD_South + 68.5% Rus_Smolensk"                "2.0014"
    [108,] "41.9% MD_Center + 58.1% Rus_Smolensk"               "2.0057"
    [109,] "79.7% Belorussian + 20.3% Greek_Izmir"              "2.0059"
    [110,] "83.9% PL_Mazovia + 16.1% Turk_Southeast"            "2.0076"
    [111,] "13.9% Lebanese_Christian + 86.1% PL_Mazovia"        "2.0136"
    [112,] "76.6% Belorussian + 23.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain"   "2.0158"
    [113,] "85.6% Belorussian + 14.4% Hemshin"                  "2.0196"
    [114,] "12.6% Ossetian + 87.4% Ukrainian"                   "2.0197"
    [115,] "14.4% Cypriots + 85.6% PL_Mazovia"                  "2.0199"
    [116,] "26% Bulgarian_Thrace + 74% Rus_Kostroma"            "2.0204"
    [117,] "73.3% PL_Mazovia + 26.7% Turk_Makedonya"            "2.0236"
    [118,] "22% Greek_Central + 78% Rus_Kostroma"               "2.0247"
    [119,] "14.8% Azeri_Jew + 85.2% Belorussian"                "2.037" 
    [120,] "33.3% Bulgarian_West + 66.7% Rus_Kostroma"          "2.0489"


    I can scan your matches if you give me your Gedmatch kit. Also can help if you know the village in Silistra.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
    Y: Q-L330 > Q-YP771 > Q-BZ180 > Q-F16045* (F15008*) --> Baikal N, Altai MLBA, Aldy-Bel, Pazyryk, Hun.
    MT: K1a --> Iron Gates, Starcevo, Bulgaria N, Bulgaria CA, Bulgaria BA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I don't think it possible to detect 1/8 ancestry for sure. You can model like 1/4 & 1/8 Bulgarian or Balkan Turk:


    Code:
      [1,] "10.5% Laz + 89.5% Ukrainian"                        "1.0715"
      [2,] "10.5% Hemshin + 89.5% Ukrainian"                    "1.1052"
      [3,] "10.7% Greek_Pontus + 89.3% Ukrainian"               "1.1499"
      [4,] "10.1% Georgian_Adjara + 89.9% Ukrainian"            "1.1642"
      [5,] "10.8% Turk_East_Black_Sea + 89.2% Ukrainian"        "1.1879"
      [6,] "15.2% Greek_Cappadocia + 84.8% PL_Mazovia"          "1.1967"
      [7,] "14% Armenian_West + 86% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.2161"
      [8,] "10.2% Georgian_Turkey + 89.8% Ukrainian"            "1.2463"
      [9,] "11.1% Turk_Ahiska + 88.9% Ukrainian"                "1.2758"
     [10,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Greek_Cappadocia"         "1.3455"
     [11,] "11.2% Armenian_East + 88.8% Ukrainian"              "1.3497"
     [12,] "13.9% Assyrian_West + 86.1% PL_Mazovia"             "1.3828"
     [13,] "11% Georgian_mixed + 89% Ukrainian"                 "1.3909"
     [14,] "10.3% Georgian_Imereti + 89.7% Ukrainian"           "1.3927"
     [15,] "13.8% Assyrian_North + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"            "1.4423"
     [16,] "13.8% Assyrian_South + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"            "1.4499"
     [17,] "14.5% Armenian_East + 85.5% PL_Mazovia"             "1.488" 
     [18,] "13.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"     "1.5073"
     [19,] "10.8% Armenian_West + 89.2% Ukrainian"              "1.5157"
     [20,] "14.6% Nusayri_Turkey + 85.4% PL_Mazovia"            "1.5159"
     [21,] "13.8% Azeri_Jew + 86.2% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.5217"
     [22,] "84.8% PL_Mazovia + 15.2% Turk_East"                 "1.5401"
     [23,] "10.6% Georgian_Gurian + 89.4% Ukrainian"            "1.5423"
     [24,] "15% Armenian_West + 85% Belorussian"                "1.55"  
     [25,] "11.8% Turk_East + 88.2% Ukrainian"                  "1.5801"
     [26,] "10.3% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.7% Ukrainian"        "1.5902"
     [27,] "11.7% Udi_Azerbaijan + 88.3% Ukrainian"             "1.5986"
     [28,] "13.7% Greek_Pontus + 86.3% PL_Mazovia"              "1.5999"
     [29,] "11.7% Greek_Cappadocia + 88.3% Ukrainian"           "1.6234"
     [30,] "17.6% Greek_Izmir + 82.4% Rus_Smolensk"             "1.6298"
     [31,] "19.3% Greek_Foca + 80.7% Rus_Smolensk"              "1.6366"
     [32,] "85.3% Belorussian + 14.7% Greek_Pontus"             "1.6694"
     [33,] "18.3% Greek_Crete + 81.7% PL_Mazovia"               "1.6937"
     [34,] "10.3% Georgia_Jews + 89.7% Ukrainian"               "1.6994"
     [35,] "10.9% Georgian_Svan + 89.1% PL_GreaterPoland"       "1.7005"
     [36,] "11.5% Abkhazian + 88.5% PL_GreaterPoland"           "1.711" 
     [37,] "11.1% Abkhazian + 88.9% Ukrainian"                  "1.7117"
     [38,] "28.1% Bulgarian_East + 71.9% Rus_Smolensk"          "1.7159"
     [39,] "15.5% Armenian_East + 84.5% Belorussian"            "1.7183"
     [40,] "17.1% Greek_Kos + 82.9% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.7213"
     [41,] "32.1% Pomak + 67.9% Rus_Smolensk"                   "1.7215"
     [42,] "11% Georgian_Gurian + 89% PL_GreaterPoland"         "1.7226"
     [43,] "24.4% Bulgarian_Thrace + 75.6% Rus_Smolensk"        "1.7287"
     [44,] "13.6% Iraqi_Jew + 86.4% PL_Mazovia"                 "1.7292"
     [45,] "28% Greek_Macedonia + 72% Rus_Smolensk"             "1.7421"
     [46,] "83.6% PL_Mazovia + 16.4% Turk_Central_East"         "1.748" 
     [47,] "10.6% Georgian_Mingrelian + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland" "1.7565"
     [48,] "16.9% Greek_Crete + 83.1% Rus_Smolensk"             "1.7661"
     [49,] "13.7% Iranian_Jew + 86.3% PL_Mazovia"               "1.7729"
     [50,] "13.9% Greek_Cappadocia + 86.1% Rus_Smolensk"        "1.7773"
     [51,] "21.9% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain + 78.1% PL_Mazovia"    "1.7789"
     [52,] "15.8% Greek_Kos + 84.2% Rus_Smolensk"               "1.7811"
     [53,] "20.5% Greek_Central + 79.5% Rus_Smolensk"           "1.784" 
     [54,] "86.1% PL_Mazovia + 13.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea"       "1.7893"
     [55,] "28.3% MD_Gagauz + 71.7% Rus_Smolensk"               "1.7967"
     [56,] "30.4% Bulgarian_Central + 69.6% Rus_Smolensk"       "1.7999"
     [57,] "10.5% Georgian_Svan + 89.5% Ukrainian"              "1.8069"
     [58,] "21.6% Greek_Peloponnese + 78.4% Rus_Smolensk"       "1.8082"
     [59,] "13.4% Georgia_Jews + 86.6% PL_Mazovia"              "1.8183"
     [60,] "83.7% Belorussian + 16.3% Turk_East"                "1.8207"
     [61,] "85% PL_Mazovia + 15% Udi_Azerbaijan"                "1.8306"
     [62,] "50.5% Latvian + 49.5% MD_Gagauz"                    "1.8307"
     [63,] "82% PL_Mazovia + 18% Turk_West_BlackSea"            "1.8342"
     [64,] "13.6% Mandean + 86.4% PL_Mazovia"                   "1.8383"
     [65,] "20.3% Greek_Athens + 79.7% Rus_Smolensk"            "1.8392"
     [66,] "23.1% Greek_Thessaloniki + 76.9% Rus_Smolensk"      "1.8425"
     [67,] "14.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 85.2% PL_Mazovia"           "1.8492"
     [68,] "19% Greek_Izmir + 81% PL_Mazovia"                   "1.8508"
     [69,] "84.7% PL_Mazovia + 15.3% Syrian_B"                  "1.8531"
     [70,] "82.9% PL_Mazovia + 17.1% Turk_Central_West"         "1.8552"
     [71,] "85.1% Belorussian + 14.9% Turk_East_Black_Sea"      "1.8554"
     [72,] "13.1% Ossetian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland"            "1.8587"
     [73,] "54.4% Lithuanian + 45.6% MD_Gagauz"                 "1.8605"
     [74,] "13.1% Circassian + 86.9% PL_GreaterPoland"          "1.8634"
     [75,] "10.6% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya + 89.4% Ukrainian"      "1.8716"
     [76,] "14% Balkar + 86% PL_GreaterPoland"                  "1.878" 
     [77,] "10.6% Assyrian_North + 89.4% Ukrainian"             "1.8811"
     [78,] "10.6% Assyrian_West + 89.4% Ukrainian"              "1.8832"
     [79,] "10.6% Georgian_Imereti + 89.4% PL_GreaterPoland"    "1.8874"
     [80,] "29.9% Greek_Macedonia + 70.1% Rus_Kostroma"         "1.8952"
     [81,] "14.9% Assyrian_West + 85.1% Belorussian"            "1.8982"
     [82,] "49.1% Greek_Macedonia + 50.9% Latvian"              "1.9073"
     [83,] "13.3% Cypriots + 86.7% Rus_Smolensk"                "1.9109"
     [84,] "85.2% PL_Mazovia + 14.8% Syrian_A"                  "1.9114"
     [85,] "31.3% Bulgarian_West + 68.7% Rus_Smolensk"          "1.9118"
     [86,] "13.3% Kumyks + 86.7% PL_GreaterPoland"              "1.9187"
     [87,] "71% PL_Mazovia + 29% Turk_Deliorman"                "1.9261"
     [88,] "10.6% Azeri_Jew + 89.4% Ukrainian"                  "1.9288"
     [89,] "10.6% Assyrian_South + 89.4% Ukrainian"             "1.9312"
     [90,] "30% Bulgarian_East + 70% Rus_Kostroma"              "1.9358"
     [91,] "11.3% Georgian_mixed + 88.7% PL_GreaterPoland"      "1.9394"
     [92,] "80.4% Belorussian + 19.6% Greek_Crete"              "1.9432"
     [93,] "39.4% Lithuanian + 60.6% MD_Center"                 "1.9505"
     [94,] "14.8% Assyrian_North + 85.2% Belorussian"           "1.9509"
     [95,] "13.4% Hemshin + 86.6% PL_Mazovia"                   "1.9553"
     [96,] "34.1% Pomak + 65.9% Rus_Kostroma"                   "1.9593"
     [97,] "18.9% Italy_Apulia + 81.1% Rus_Smolensk"            "1.9675"
     [98,] "32.4% Bulgarian_Central + 67.6% Rus_Kostroma"       "1.9694"
     [99,] "22.9% Greek_Thrace + 77.1% Rus_Smolensk"            "1.9733"
    [100,] "75.2% Rus_Smolensk + 24.8% Turk_Makedonya"          "1.9748"
    [101,] "14.8% Assyrian_South + 85.2% Belorussian"           "1.9773"
    [102,] "81.7% Belorussian + 18.3% Greek_Kos"                "1.9821"
    [103,] "83% PL_Mazovia + 17% Turk_Anatolia"                 "1.9912"
    [104,] "12.5% Circassian + 87.5% Ukrainian"                 "1.9958"
    [105,] "85.2% Belorussian + 14.8% Mountain_Jew_Chechnya"    "2.0008"
    [106,] "49.2% Bulgarian_East + 50.8% Latvian"               "2.0013"
    [107,] "31.5% MD_South + 68.5% Rus_Smolensk"                "2.0014"
    [108,] "41.9% MD_Center + 58.1% Rus_Smolensk"               "2.0057"
    [109,] "79.7% Belorussian + 20.3% Greek_Izmir"              "2.0059"
    [110,] "83.9% PL_Mazovia + 16.1% Turk_Southeast"            "2.0076"
    [111,] "13.9% Lebanese_Christian + 86.1% PL_Mazovia"        "2.0136"
    [112,] "76.6% Belorussian + 23.4% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain"   "2.0158"
    [113,] "85.6% Belorussian + 14.4% Hemshin"                  "2.0196"
    [114,] "12.6% Ossetian + 87.4% Ukrainian"                   "2.0197"
    [115,] "14.4% Cypriots + 85.6% PL_Mazovia"                  "2.0199"
    [116,] "26% Bulgarian_Thrace + 74% Rus_Kostroma"            "2.0204"
    [117,] "73.3% PL_Mazovia + 26.7% Turk_Makedonya"            "2.0236"
    [118,] "22% Greek_Central + 78% Rus_Kostroma"               "2.0247"
    [119,] "14.8% Azeri_Jew + 85.2% Belorussian"                "2.037" 
    [120,] "33.3% Bulgarian_West + 66.7% Rus_Kostroma"          "2.0489"


    I can scan your matches if you give me your Gedmatch kit. Also can help if you know the village in Silistra.
    I am 7/8 1/8 split, so I should pay attention to only 87/13, I wrote my Gedmatch Kit number in private message

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    I am 7/8 1/8 split, so I should pay attention to only 87/13, I wrote my Gedmatch Kit number in private message
    I could not find a Balkan Turk match on your match list. In addition, I run 9 Turks from Silistra in one-to-one comparison yet found no match.
    qpAdm: Bulgarian_1.DG= 77 - Kimak.SG= 23, p= 0.36, se= 0.31.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaspias View Post
    I could not find a Balkan Turk match on your match list. In addition, I run 9 Turks from Silistra in one-to-one comparison yet found no match.
    Thank you, so that southern shift is because of Sephardic heritage then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriekman View Post
    Population
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    Siberian 0.66 Pct
    Northwest_African -
    Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
    Atlantic_Med 21.98 Pct
    North_European 49.98 Pct
    South_Asian 0.49 Pct
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    I do not know if it is representative , even If I have it it is maximum 1/8

    If I use vahaduo with Eastern European and Balkan Turk samples it is overestimating it if it is to 16%
    Have you considered raw data conversion? Kaspias is present in this thread, he knows better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Have you considered raw data conversion? Kaspias is present in this thread, he knows better.
    I do not understand what do you mean by raw data conversion.

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    To be honest, I think you are just like user Polak looking for some more "diversity" in your blood line. Just be Polish, it's a nice homogeneous white country that hasn't abandoned its identity. Sephardic, Balkan Turkic, Kenyan, Cambodian...

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