Catholic Poland bans abortion

[Grace O'Malley]

Equal responsibility without equal rights is injustice, as pointed out by supporters of this concept.

And the father does not have equal rights.

Up to 70% of Danes support this and they are among the most progressive nations in the world.

Not worried about who is considered progressive. I think for myself. A man doesn't carry a child so nature is not equal. It is much more costly to a woman to have a pregnancy. You can't force a woman to carry a child because a man demands it. I do have sympathy for the father but you obviously would know that it is the woman's choice. As I said it is all to do with responsibility. I don't agree with people having irresponsible sex be they man or woman. It does have consequences. Just be responsible and pick who you have sex with wisely. Your decisions have consequences.

You could say exactly the same thing about women: you don't want kids then don't get pregnant.

I agree completely.

[Insuperable]

After the man inseminated a woman, the process of developing the fetus and baring it until it's fully developed to be born is all on the female. She has to go through everything, it's happening in her body. We can simply do whatever we want, having nothing to do with the whole biological process from that point on.

No shit. Man, I seriously think modern so called progressivists are very limited. Looking at things objectively when they shouldn't be viewed only as such and looking at things subjectively when they shouldn't be only viewed as such.

Okay, I can knock up as many women as I want and I can have nothing to do with it and they are the ones who need to go through physical and post mental traumas?
Greeeeat by me.

[Peterski]

You can't force a woman to carry a child because a man demands it.

Yes but what about the opposite, if a man wants her to abort?

[Grace O'Malley]

Yes but what about the opposite, if a man wants her to abort?

Well that is obvious. A woman will have the final choice. It will be her responsibility but if he has had sex it will also be his responsibility to bear the consequences. It's not rocket science. It is the responsibility of both men and women to be responsible for their choices. If anyone has unprotected sex they should take responsibility for their actions. What is so difficult about this?

[Tooting Carmen]

Sounds right.

Greer is an interesting and complex figure. Although many on the Right despise her for the ideas she espoused in The Female Eunuch, the thing is she has recanted many of those beliefs, having realised that sexual libertinism, far from empowering and freeing women, actually led many men to treat them like shit even more than before. (The whole point about traditional marriage is that, in return for a woman making herself sexually available to a man, he has a duty to be faithful to her and look after her). In addition, in recent years she has spoken out against the transgender ideology, saying that ‘just because you lop off your dick and then wear a dress doesn’t make you a fucking woman’.

[Abriekman]

Dude its nationalbolshevism (with pan european connotations) anyway my point even from a good communist would make sense because it's against objectification and mercification of the human being and its environment

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You are communist and racist towards Muslims and you can talk about human life, very funny

[Dunai]

No shit. Man, I seriously think modern so called progressivists are very limited. Looking at things objectively when they shouldn't be viewed only as such and looking at things subjectively when they shouldn't be only viewed as such.

Okay, I can knock up as many women as I want and I can have nothing to do with it and they are the ones who need to go through physical and post mental traumas?
Greeeeat by me.

Your cheap irony falls completely flat since it has nothing to do with what I said. Read more carefully and think next time when you try to counter-argue someone. Biologically it is in the woman's body where the fetus and child is being created, we men have no more to contribute biologically after insemination. I haven't even touched upon the moral duty a man has after inseminating a woman. That is a whole different conversation from the biological process. Needless to say I am perfectly in favor of moral and emotional support by a man to the woman that will bare his future child. However the woman always has the last say, preferably after talking it through with the male who contributed, if the sexual act was consensual in the first place.

[Tarlus Magnus]

Dude its nationalbolshevism (with pan european connotations) anyway my point even from a good communist would make sense because it's against objectification and mercification of the human being and its environment

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My point could be agreed on by true christians too because even Jesus was against the slavery of the human being.
Jesus would be probably be against capitalism too

[Tarlus Magnus]

You are communist and racist towards Muslims and you can talk about human life, very funny

I hate jewish sionists more and btw I can't be racist towards muslims because being muslim isnt a subrace, muslim communities can be described as ethnicities at best.
I'm anti-islamist because I think the ideology fucking sucks and their traditions too and they're dangerous to us and themselves.
But even if I was a racist why the fuck couldn't I talk about human life, being a racist just means judging a person on their race or subrace before even knowing the person, being racist per se isn't about slavery and ethnic cleansing just means having heavy prejudices against a human subspecies

[Tannhauser]

In some parts of Europe the Dark Ages have a tendency to come back. Unfortunately similar peril I see in Hungary. These religious zealots won't stop until they ruin the lives of countless more women. The Handmaid's Tale might not be such a hyperbolic future anymore...

O.T.

Poor middle ages, what harm has it done to you? It's funny 5 years ago, when it was the first time I heard the term, you googled it and nothing appeared, not even a YouTube video.

It's funny how people swallow everything that comes out of SJW think tanks and global massmedia. That label has as its main purpose to attack Christian morality, to emphasize post-truth and Willkommenskultur.

I ve made a thread about it, you are welcome:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ciation-Thread