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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Nice. Maybe I should have done it more heterogenously. Might be more accurate. Is ZAF, Khoisan-like individuals from South Africa while Pemba is medieval Bantu from Tanzania?
    I think your original idea should be more accurate than mine, and the idea of link the labels of the references to the ancient colonial racial mixing scale is very good.

    Anyway for Latinoamericans maybe is more informative (and will always get better distances) simply a model with different European+Amerindian+SSA references.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erronkari View Post
    It would be fantastic of course to try those other averages (castizo and harnizo).
    Even though I am not sure if it's necessary to add the SSA... most mexican mestizos score between 1.5 and 5%... it's not a very relevant number, even though it could be interesting if you do it of course.
    Do you know which countries are where most Castizos and Harnizos can be founded?

    I see. Thanks for your reply.

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    Ready with the Balanced Mestizo Mexican, and it's indeed the closer in my case.

    Distance to: Mr.Wog_scaled
    0.30502252 Balanced_Mestizo_Mexico
    0.36412551 Balanced_Triracial_Brazil
    0.38251674 Mulatto_Caribbean_Hispanic
    0.50178397 Indomestizo_Peru
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    For example, this model would be enough (it´s made with the customized references I used to make those 2 Latino references):

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    Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia,0.10646733,0.14688233,0.03492500,-0.00301667,0.04277467,-0.00423167,-0.00322200,0.00147333,0.02499733,0.03070867,-0.00139567,0.00657967,-0.01218267,-0.01163967,0.01011833,-0.00009600,-0.00321833,-0.00176033,-0.00547800,-0.00065367,0.00206267,-0.00287133,-0.00071667,-0.00307933,0.00107233
    Iberian:North_Iberia,0.12242300,0.14849267,0.04831367,0.00441433,0.04920567,-0.00158033,-0.00117500,0.00112833,0.02542900,0.03776333,-0.00550333,0.00982467,-0.01831833,-0.01532200,0.01438633,0.00066300,-0.00819967,0.00174567,-0.00188533,-0.00464133,0.00506033,0.00028867,-0.00647733,-0.00282500,0.00303367
    Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
    Italian:South_Italian:Mainland,0.10765055,0.14730115,-0.00740228,-0.04272373,0.01384175,-0.01458015,-0.00069750,-0.00217618,0.00395688,0.02090800,0.00024765,0.00301008,-0.00603383,-0.00056470,-0.00836273,-0.00287953,0.00428768,0.00024715,0.00346385,-0.00433768,-0.00310053,0.00091510,0.00123820,0.00246810,0.00004713
    Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.00469700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0.00337033,0.00195233
    SSA:B,-0.6242421,0.0639936,0.0215130,0.0145326,0.0028094,0.0117579,-0.0161961,0.0216721,-0.0308661,0.0149323,0.0037054,0.0018871,-0.0006642,0.0019913,-0.0064682,0.0041677,-0.0048993,0.0149827,-0.0066659,0.0019943,0.0010692,0.0020188,0.0011803,0.0001642,0.0012754
    You can use them if you want it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maguzanci View Post
    Do you know which countries are where most Castizos and Harnizos can be founded?

    I see. Thanks for your reply.
    Sure: Chile, Paraguay and Costa Rica are practically harnizo, but Costa Rica may be with a little split of SSA, but not more than 4/5% in the most populated area.
    Argentina is castizo o average with a little tendence to "white latino", what genetic calculators consider +85% Euro in the New World (Argentinian average is close to 75/78% European).
    And Uruguay is in the last category (average is 84% Euro more or less).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    For example, this model would be enough (it´s made with the customized references I used to make those 2 Latino references):

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    Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia,0.10646733,0.14688233,0.03492500,-0.00301667,0.04277467,-0.00423167,-0.00322200,0.00147333,0.02499733,0.03070867,-0.00139567,0.00657967,-0.01218267,-0.01163967,0.01011833,-0.00009600,-0.00321833,-0.00176033,-0.00547800,-0.00065367,0.00206267,-0.00287133,-0.00071667,-0.00307933,0.00107233
    Iberian:North_Iberia,0.12242300,0.14849267,0.04831367,0.00441433,0.04920567,-0.00158033,-0.00117500,0.00112833,0.02542900,0.03776333,-0.00550333,0.00982467,-0.01831833,-0.01532200,0.01438633,0.00066300,-0.00819967,0.00174567,-0.00188533,-0.00464133,0.00506033,0.00028867,-0.00647733,-0.00282500,0.00303367
    Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
    Italian:South_Italian:Mainland,0.10765055,0.14730115,-0.00740228,-0.04272373,0.01384175,-0.01458015,-0.00069750,-0.00217618,0.00395688,0.02090800,0.00024765,0.00301008,-0.00603383,-0.00056470,-0.00836273,-0.00287953,0.00428768,0.00024715,0.00346385,-0.00433768,-0.00310053,0.00091510,0.00123820,0.00246810,0.00004713
    Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.00469700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0.00337033,0.00195233
    SSA:B,-0.6242421,0.0639936,0.0215130,0.0145326,0.0028094,0.0117579,-0.0161961,0.0216721,-0.0308661,0.0149323,0.0037054,0.0018871,-0.0006642,0.0019913,-0.0064682,0.0041677,-0.0048993,0.0149827,-0.0066659,0.0019943,0.0010692,0.0020188,0.0011803,0.0001642,0.0012754
    You can use them if you want it.
    Thanks. The reason why I made all these coordinates in the first place is because I want to see where they plot on a Global PCA something like an West Eurasia-East Eurasia-Africa three dimension.

    For example this PCA, look at how close Natives (Pima and Clovis) are close to the plots of Altaian and Kyrgyz.



    Or this PCA: Totonacs are an Amerindian ethnic group from Southern Mexico. The PCA comes from this DNA study. The Bolivians according to this paper has some European admixture while the Totonacs are 100%/close to 100% Amerindian. CHB/JPT are Han Chinese from Beijing, Japanese from Tokyo while CEU are Americans of European descent from Utah and YRI aer Yorubas fo West Africa



    I want to see where Latin Americans would plot in such PCA hehe.
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    Distance to: Axel
    0.20965018 Balanced_Triracial_Brazil
    0.22779217 Balanced_Mestizo_Mexico
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    Quote Originally Posted by gixajo View Post
    For example, this model would be enough (it´s made with the customized references I used to make those 2 Latino references):

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    Iberian:SouthWest_Iberia,0.10646733,0.14688233,0.03492500,-0.00301667,0.04277467,-0.00423167,-0.00322200,0.00147333,0.02499733,0.03070867,-0.00139567,0.00657967,-0.01218267,-0.01163967,0.01011833,-0.00009600,-0.00321833,-0.00176033,-0.00547800,-0.00065367,0.00206267,-0.00287133,-0.00071667,-0.00307933,0.00107233
    Iberian:North_Iberia,0.12242300,0.14849267,0.04831367,0.00441433,0.04920567,-0.00158033,-0.00117500,0.00112833,0.02542900,0.03776333,-0.00550333,0.00982467,-0.01831833,-0.01532200,0.01438633,0.00066300,-0.00819967,0.00174567,-0.00188533,-0.00464133,0.00506033,0.00028867,-0.00647733,-0.00282500,0.00303367
    Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
    Italian:South_Italian:Mainland,0.10765055,0.14730115,-0.00740228,-0.04272373,0.01384175,-0.01458015,-0.00069750,-0.00217618,0.00395688,0.02090800,0.00024765,0.00301008,-0.00603383,-0.00056470,-0.00836273,-0.00287953,0.00428768,0.00024715,0.00346385,-0.00433768,-0.00310053,0.00091510,0.00123820,0.00246810,0.00004713
    Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.00469700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0.00337033,0.00195233
    SSA:B,-0.6242421,0.0639936,0.0215130,0.0145326,0.0028094,0.0117579,-0.0161961,0.0216721,-0.0308661,0.0149323,0.0037054,0.0018871,-0.0006642,0.0019913,-0.0064682,0.0041677,-0.0048993,0.0149827,-0.0066659,0.0019943,0.0010692,0.0020188,0.0011803,0.0001642,0.0012754
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    Distance: 2.1342% / 0.02134183

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    Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    Distance: 2.4265% / 0.02426548 | ADC: 0.25x

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    0.07080835 Iberian:Center
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    Quote Originally Posted by alnortedelsur View Post
    [B]Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
    D....B
    Pues parece que contigo funciona muy bien.

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