Closest modern pops to ANE?

[Maguzanci]

Maguzanci, why are you so insistent in NOT simply using ANE to model Amerindians, when people keep telling you that nothing else will work?

Not really. It just so weird to me that the western ancestry of Amerinds is so unique, and distinct that you can't utilize anything else except ANE.

[Trouble]

Maguzanci, why are you so insistent in NOT simply using ANE to model Amerindians, when people keep telling you that nothing else will work?

ANE does not even seem to work well. They are extremely diverged.

[Token]

ANE does not even seem to work well. They are extremely diverged.

It does works very well. This one is from the recent Yana paper:

Clovis_LP
Malta_UP 0.31 ±0.03
DevilsCave_N 0.69 ±0.03
chisq: 5.56
pval: 0.696

Full output here.

[Trouble]

It does works very well. This one is from the recent Yana paper:

Clovis_LP
Malta_UP 0.31 ±0.03
DevilsCave_N 0.69 ±0.03
chisq: 5.56
pval: 0.696

Full output here.

Maybe on formal stats. Not G25.

[Narration]

Would EHG be a better choice as they are mostly ANE derived (but with good amount of WHG)?

True. But Uralics seem to have really low Basal Eurasian compared to most modern West Eurasians.

If you use EHG, you would eliminate Basal Eurasian but EHG is 1:4 WHG and the best fit would still be very distant from Amerindians.

[Maguzanci]

It does works very well. This one is from the recent Yana paper:

Clovis_LP
Malta_UP 0.31 ±0.03
DevilsCave_N 0.69 ±0.03
chisq: 5.56
pval: 0.696

Full output here.

Clovis are one of those Amerindians who are in the lower ANE range? Do you have models for Karitiana, Mayan or Quechua?

[Synapsid]

It does works very well. This one is from the recent Yana paper:

Clovis_LP
Malta_UP 0.31 ±0.03
DevilsCave_N 0.69 ±0.03
chisq: 5.56
pval: 0.696

Full output here.

Interesting that Yana's Dentalogical metrics is close to Palaeolithic Europeans.

[Token]

Interesting that Yana's Dentalogical metrics is close to Palaeolithic Europeans.

Yana clearly represents an very early eastern migration of European people.

[Token]

Kostenki skull. Look at the rectangular orbits of this motherfucker, Mesolithic Europeans look like wimps compared to him.

[Synapsid]

Yana clearly represents an very early eastern migration of European people.

Yeah. Its tooth structure is much closer to even Mesolithic Europeans than to Eastern Eurasians, which makes genetic sense despite its geography. Its insane that Europid populations were living so close to Alaska and the Canadian Yukon 30,000+ years ago. This year, they found evidence that human made tools existed in the Americas around 33,000 years ago. They can't have been made by Paleo-Amerind, since Amerind is not a population outliner (a descrite race) that existed around 33,000 years ago, but a biracial product of ANE (Q1) mixing with NE Asians that developed sinodonty (B2, D4, C, A2, with possibly west eurasian X2) around 23,000 years ago. I don't think Austromelanesians lived in N. Americas at that time due to Palaeolithic technology in Sundaland and Aussieland being too primitive for such long distance voyage to the Americans. Ancient North Siberians could have reach the Americas 33,000 despite Beringian Ice sheets blocking the passage, by using rafts along the icy but kelp rich coasts.