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    © Provided by ABC NEWS Wesa Chau said Eric Abetz's questioning was unfair and compared it to McCarthyism. (Twitter/ABC News)

    A Senator's grilling of three Chinese Australians has ignited a fierce debate in the diaspora community, with some labelling it blatant racial profiling and others defending his call to denounce the Chinese Communist Party.

    During a Senate committee hearing last Wednesday focussing on diversity in Australian politics, Liberal senator Eric Abetz repeatedly asked the trio about their attitude to China's ruling party.

    "There are other factors a lot more important to be considered than skin colour and ethnic origin … can I ask each of the three witnesses to very briefly tell me whether they are willing to unconditionally condemn the Chinese Communist Party dictatorship?" he asked.

    The exchange has been shared widely on WeChat and other Chinese language social media sites, drawing a furious response from some in the community.

    But while many Chinese Australians said the questions were "racist", others defended Senator Abetz.

    "I am thankful Senator Abetz had the guts to say something like that," said Edgar Lu, an emerging Chinese Australian influencer known as Sydney Daddy on YouTube.

    "Senator Abetz's question was very much to the point … because the scale of the CCP's suppression on freedom is far beyond a tolerable level, even spreading overseas."

    He said the three participants didn't have an obligation to give an answer, but they should not "demonise" the question by claiming it was "racist".

    During the hearing, Osmond Chiu, a research fellow at the progressive think tank Per Capita, said he did not support the CCP but did not believe it was helpful to "get into a political game of denouncements".

    Wesa Chau, Labor's deputy lord mayor candidate for Melbourne, said Australia should "defend human rights and speak up against it", but at the same time, she said it was "unfair" to request witnesses to "publicly declare their allegiance to Australia by condemning a foreign government".

    "This goes to the point I was making: when a person is putting their hand up for public office or speaking out publicly, they are required to make that allegiance and declare loyalty. This is unfair on the community," Ms Chau said in the hearing.

    She later called it "race-baiting McCarthyism".

    Jane Poon, representative for the Australia-Hong Kong Link, which lobbies the Australian Government to stand up for Hong Kong's democracy, told the ABC the question from Senator Abetz might be "objectionable", but she didn't feel "humiliated" by it.

    "Many Chinese migrants — especially from mainland China — were scared to talk about it," Ms Poon said.

    "It's time to face the offences committed by the country and nation of our origin, and choose to condemn them."

    'White people don't have to demonstrate they're Australian'
    But some people of Chinese heritage who were born in Australia or moved here as infants see it differently.

    Jinghua Qian, an award-winning Chinese-Australian writer, said Senator Abetz's question was "blatant racial profiling".

    "I can condemn him [Xi Jinping] all I like and the only plausible consequence is that my family are threatened as a result," they said.

    The 33-year-old came to Australia from Shanghai as a child, after the Tiananmen Square massacre.

    They said they have no problem with "unconditionally" condemning the CCP, "and particularly their human rights abuses in Xinjiang", but the question proved the citizenship for Australians who are people of colour is "conditional".

    "Why are Australians addressing the Australian Senate expected to have an opinion on the government of a foreign country at all, just because they have Chinese ancestry?" Jinghua told the ABC.

    "There's a double standard in this country where people of colour always have to prove themselves in endless performances of loyalty and gratitude, while white people don't have to do anything to demonstrate that they're Australian."

    Jinghua added that Australian Muslims were also constantly called to condemn terrorists or ISIS, "as if they're responsible for the actions of these groups".

    "But ISIS aren't sitting around waiting for some kid in Melbourne to condemn them. And Xi Jinping isn't sitting around wondering what a queer performance poet in Footscray thinks of his policies," they said.

    "Abetz is telling all Chinese Australians that… it doesn't matter if you're actually from Malaysia or Taiwan or Singapore or Vietnam, it doesn't matter if you've never set foot in the People's Republic of China … you will always be considered Chinese based on your face. "

    Jieh-Yung Lo, director of the Centre for Asian Australian Leadership at ANU, said there was "a real sense of shock" after he heard the exchange.

    "If the Senator does believe that it is our duty to condemn foreign dictatorships and autocratic governments, and it should be all foreign dictatorships and autocratic governments, not specific ones that are seemingly associated with our ethnicity," Mr Lo said.

    He said the incident showed Australia still had a long way to go to build a cohesive society, because "multiculturalism and inclusion should be more than just food and festivals".

    Government MPs concerned comments could spark racial hostility
    The exchange has also stoked unease among some Coalition MPs who are worried that Senator Abetz's comments might feed into racial hostility towards Chinese Australians, as well as alienating the Chinese community from the Liberal Party.

    No Coalition MPs or senators have directly criticised Senator Abetz, but Liberal senator Andrew Bragg put out a statement saying Chinese Australians were "magnificent patriots" who played an invaluable role in the early fight against COVID-19.

    "The Chinese Australian leadership would say privately, perhaps publicly, that Chinese Australians are the only people in the Australian family who are asked to confirm their loyalty to Australia, and I think that is degrading and regrettable," he told the ABC.

    Liberal MP Fiona Martin — whose Sydney electorate of Reid includes a large number of Chinese Australians — also declared in the House of Representatives that she would "stand up" for the Chinese community.

    "In a political climate fuelled by COVID-19 tensions [Chinese Australians] are faced with scrutiny and even racial abuse that should not be tolerated, whether it's vile words yelled on public transport or physical attacks on the street or racist rhetoric in this place," she said.

    Senator Abetz said in a statement he was asked about his loyalty to Australia numerous times because he was born in Germany.

    "At no point did I question the loyalty of anyone. I did not even mention the word 'loyalty'," Senator Abetz said.

    "Standing firm against ugly dictatorships is everyone's duty."

    When Prime Minister Scott Morrison was asked to comment on the incident last week, he didn't comment directly on Senator Abetz's question.

    "There is only one pledge that any Australian citizen should take and that's the pledge they take when they become an Australian citizen," he said.

    Mr Lo said the Prime Minister's "vague response" could create not only confusion, but also division.

    "What about Chinese Australians or Asian Australians that are born here like me?" Mr Lo asked.

    "It sort of dismisses that there are also large parts of the Chinese Australian community that were born in Australia."

    The ABC approached Hong Kong-born Liberal MP Gladys Liu for comment, but she declined.

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...ia/ar-BB1aguEz

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    The fact that a Senate Committee hearing on Wednesday turned into a "loyalty test" for multiple Chinese Australians has truly laid bare the rising McCarthyism in the land Down Under. During the important inquiry - which was actually investigating issues affecting diaspora communities in Australia - three Australian citizens (of Chinese ethnicity) were repeatedly quizzed about whether or not they would condemn the Communist Party of China.

    The Liberal Senator for Tasmania, Eric Abetz, better known for his hawkish views on China, asked the three Chinese Australians during the hearing to tell him, "whether they are willing to unconditionally condemn the Chinese Communist Party dictatorship," according to Reuters. The episode has caused a storm of outrage with former Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, among others, calling the incident "repugnant," and saying the Australian government should refrain from using "race-based panic" in its defense of national interest.

    Although he is faced with increasing ire for launching a "race-baiting McCarthyism" campaign, Abetz has refused to make an apology for his line of questioning.

    The outrageous incident unambiguously demonstrates the severity of anti-China sentiment in Australia, and showed how it has spilled out of the media and become a part of the country's political process. The hostility toward China has been blatantly pronounced in Australia's parliament, showing an entrenched hatred of China by some of Australia's highest politicians and policymakers.

    For those politicians, China has now become the target of their hatred and denunciation. They stoke up fear and resentment among their country's population, and then cunningly manipulate the populist sentiment to reinforce their anti-China crusades.

    It's now obvious that in order for Australian citizens to demonstrate their loyalty to their country, they must first denounce China. This should not only outrage China, but also Australian citizens in general, especially those with a Chinese background. What it means is that now anyone with Chinese ancestry is seen in the eyes of some Australian politicians as suspicious and of potential or blatant risk to Australia's security.

    Since the 1970s, Australia slowly installed multiculturalism as its national policy, characterizing the country as open, tolerant and embracing of all races, colors and creeds. Its policy suggests a readiness to acknowledge differences and a confidence to allow diversity. It has been this policy that has steered Australia toward political, social and cultural maturity and sophistication.

    However, nowadays, hate-driven parochialism is distracting Australia from its path toward real maturity, independence and confidence. Canberra has shown that it is constantly suspicious of imaginary threats, ceaselessly pointing an accusatory finger at China and the Chinese community in Australia.

    Such acts are in every way senseless as race is now cited as appropriate grounds for suspicion. This will ultimately "boomerang" to shoot Australia in its own foot, because it will no doubt spread disquieting seeds of fear and anxiety among Chinese Australians.

    Ideological preoccupation is now fixated in Canberra's mentality. McCarthyism is motivating a kind of political cleansing to eradicate affinity or connections with China and the Chinese community. This will ultimately propel Australia's currently deteriorating bilateral relations with China in a spiral further downward.

    The article was compiled by Global Times reporter Yu Jincui based on an interview with Chen Hong, a professor and director of the Australian Studies Centre, East China Normal University. opinion@globaltimes.com.cn

    https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1203719.shtml

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    if they were from taiwan, chinese from singapore, malaysia, phillipines etc, i would have no concern about them and their loyalty.

    if they were born in the CCP, after the decades of unprecedented brainwashing, extermination of intellectuals/free thinkers, surveillance state, and the regularly documented cases of chinese overseas actually being "former" CCP military or caught spying, well yeah.

    "racism" lol. give me a break

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    holy fuck, theyre so transparent "sydney daddy" has chinese language only videos on youtube, the guy outraged by this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wY5op158Dk
    北京冬奥会经不起西方抵制,澳洲死磕中共因为一大民族性,政治和体育能分开吗?
    "The Beijing Winter Olympics cannot withstand Western resistance. Australia is slammed by the CCP because of its nationality. Can politics and sports be separated?"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urtIVb3UTd0
    为什么我这么右的大陆人,会坚决支持左倾的民进党,而反对“右倾”的国民党。台湾选举日说说我怎么看待台湾 ,香港,大陆和中共
    "Why am I, a right mainlander, resolutely support the left-leaning DPP and oppose the "right-leaning" Kuomintang. Taiwan Election Day talk about what I think of Taiwan, Hong Kong, the mainland and the CCP"



    why are you in a country you seem to hate?

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    literally what the fuck is this shit?


    "加入外国籍了还是不是中国人?为什么香港人台湾人越来越不认同自己是中国人?到底是谁在分裂中华民族?乔 峰到底是死在谁的手里?"
    "Have you become a foreign national or are you not Chinese? Why do Hong Kong people and Taiwan people increasingly disagree that they are Chinese? Who is splitting the Chinese nation? Whose hands did Qiao Feng die?"



    thankfully, a lot of the comments section seems to be very critical of him. fuck communists

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    How about we just stop letting Chinese people in and selling the country off to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Snyper Lord 666 View Post
    holy fuck, theyre so transparent "sydney daddy" has chinese language only videos on youtube, the guy outraged by this

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wY5op158Dk
    北京冬奥会经不起西方抵制,澳洲死磕中共因为一大民族性,政治和体育能分开吗?
    "The Beijing Winter Olympics cannot withstand Western resistance. Australia is slammed by the CCP because of its nationality. Can politics and sports be separated?"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urtIVb3UTd0
    为什么我这么右的大陆人,会坚决支持左倾的民进党,而反对“右倾”的国民党。台湾选举日说说我怎么看待台湾 ,香港,大陆和中共
    "Why am I, a right mainlander, resolutely support the left-leaning DPP and oppose the "right-leaning" Kuomintang. Taiwan Election Day talk about what I think of Taiwan, Hong Kong, the mainland and the CCP"



    why are you in a country you seem to hate?
    It's the same in the U.S/Canada ( san francisco/New York). I see this CCP supporters all the time, they even wear the PLA uniform. They are just more open about it in Australia because they felt like they will own Australia in the near future. ( they see themselves as jews)

    Chinese communicate in youku/wechat not facebook/youtube to their CCP counterparts in China that's why most people in America/Australia cannot see it.

    These CCP suuporters have U.S citizenship who are in the police, army in high tech sector of the U.S industry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    How about we just stop letting Chinese people in and selling the country off to them.
    Once China gets strong, China will use the oversea Chinese in Australia, Malaysia to justify invasion.






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    Quote Originally Posted by 1R0N M4N XL View Post
    It's the same in the U.S/Canada ( san francisco/New York). I see this CCP supporters all the time, they even wear the PLA uniform. They are just more open about it in Australia because they felt like they will own Australia in the near future. ( they see themselves as jews)

    Chinese communicate in youku/wechat not facebook/youtube to their CCP counterparts in China that's why most people in America/Australia cannot see it.

    These CCP suuporters have U.S citizenship who are in the police, army in high tech sector of the U.S industry.

    english is the most popular language to learn as there are so many practical reasons to (basically any job, travel, biggest media complexes), and you can use it in many countries. few non-chinese learn chinese and it is so far difficult to correctly auto-translate, and so it is an element that hides what their society really is about for most of the world, yet it is out in the open really. i know the basic chinese characters, just enough for travel purposes. maybe educated japanese would have something closer to an understanding of chinese internet text. the vast majority of koreans do not know many chinese characters at all.




    i am not that concerned about the military capacity of china as yet, people vastly overstate their abilities and forget that the united states is essentially invincible compared to even russia in conventional warfare. you cant believe how much money they spend on it and how much practical experience theyve accumulated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Snyper Lord 666 View Post
    english is the most popular language to learn as there are so many practical reasons to (basically any job, travel, biggest media complexes), and you can use it in many countries. few non-chinese learn chinese and it is so far difficult to correctly auto-translate, and so it is an element that hides what their society really is about for most of the world, yet it is out in the open really. i know the basic chinese characters, just enough for travel purposes. maybe educated japanese would have something closer to an understanding of chinese internet text. the vast majority of koreans do not know many chinese characters at all.




    i am not that concerned about the military capacity of china as yet, people vastly overstate their abilities and forget that the united states is essentially invincible compared to even russia in conventional warfare. you cant believe how much money they spend on it and how much practical experience theyve accumulated.
    The PLA have no intentions of competing in a cold war arms race with the USA. They have learn from the failures of the soviet union. 21st century warfare is based on information and economic warfare. sun zu art of war is to subdue your enemy without firing a single bullet. (a) Basically the Chinese are more focus on stealing the wealth from the U.S.A by getting Americans hooked on cheap Chinese goods, (b)dump of the markets just to destroy the U.S manufacturing industry. Once they accomplish that, U.S will collapse within and China will press forward to all locations where the Americans retreated.

    Sneaky ness is part of the Chinese culture. They know how to ''pander'' to Americans wishful thinking that Chinese are willing to move towards democracy and Chinese willing to integrate with the rest of the world. Chinese willing to open to the rest of the world.

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