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    Cubans, as far I know they are in the top 4 of the most European countries in LATAM

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    I think one third of Cuba is fully euro phenotypes and between one fifth or one quarter is pred. euros/off whites. That means slightly more than half of the population there is pred. euro. The rest is pardos/mulattoes and blacks.

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    Cubans, even now.
    Last edited by Andullero; 10-27-2020 at 07:20 PM.

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    Cubans. They’re about as white as Argentinians in average

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    The answer Is obvious obviously Cubans they are even more white then Brazilians despite them trolling none stop to appear In the top least.

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    How do you know about Cuba at all if Cuba is quite an isolated regime? Most Cubans who fled Castro to Miami/Florida were Whites from the elite and middle upper class (also a few mulattos and blacks).

    They will be more European than average latino, but I don't know if their census is reliable and if the results from Cuban averages about 23andme/gedmatch results are from Cubans living in Cuba or Cuban diaspora at Florida. If they are from the cuban diaspora in the US it will likely be misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunnos View Post
    How do you know about Cuba at all if Cuba is quite an isolated regime? Most Cubans who fled Castro to Miami/Florida were Whites from the elite and middle upper class (also a few mulattos and blacks).

    They will be more European than average latino, but I don't know if their census is reliable and if the results from Cuban averages about 23andme/gedmatch results are from Cubans living in Cuba or Cuban diaspora at Florida. If they are from the cuban diaspora in the US it will likely be misleading.
    There have been a few studies of Cuba conducted on the island, rather than the Miami diaspora. Predictibly, they are less Euro than Miami Cubans, but still very European by Ltin American standards.

    Here's a 2018 study with 1,019 Cubans on the island representing all fifteen Cuban provinces (other studies give similar results, this is just the first one that came to mind):

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-29851-3#Sec9

    "On average, the proportion of European ancestry estimated across all Cuban samples was 71%."
    (compare this with 85-90% Euro for Miami Cubans)

    This varies significantly by province:



    "The highest European ancestry was observed in Western provinces such as Mayabeque (on average 87.7% SD = 9.6%). In contrast, Fig. 2c shows elevated levels of African admixture among individuals from La Havana (on average 27.9% SD = 27.7% across 72 individuals), and the Eastern provinces of Santiago de Cuba and Guantanamo (on average 38.8% SD = 24.0% across 88 individuals and 40.1% SD = 25.2% across 54 individuals, respectively)"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fincher View Post
    Cubans. They’re about as white as Argentinians in average
    But not forgetting that Uruguay is whiter than both of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BirdMan View Post
    There have been a few studies of Cuba conducted on the island, rather than the Miami diaspora. Predictibly, they are less Euro than Miami Cubans, but still very European by Ltin American standards.

    Here's a 2018 study with 1,019 Cubans on the island representing all fifteen Cuban provinces (other studies give similar results, this is just the first one that came to mind):

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-29851-3#Sec9

    "On average, the proportion of European ancestry estimated across all Cuban samples was 71%."
    (compare this with 85-90% Euro for Miami Cubans)

    This varies significantly by province:



    "The highest European ancestry was observed in Western provinces such as Mayabeque (on average 87.7% SD = 9.6%). In contrast, Fig. 2c shows elevated levels of African admixture among individuals from La Havana (on average 27.9% SD = 27.7% across 72 individuals), and the Eastern provinces of Santiago de Cuba and Guantanamo (on average 38.8% SD = 24.0% across 88 individuals and 40.1% SD = 25.2% across 54 individuals, respectively)"
    Friend: Are those estimates the same to these???
    I ask because if they are not it would be very interesting since they would to different genetic exams for Cuba.


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