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Thread: If Georgians and Armenians are descendants of Japheth, then why do they look Jewish and Arab?

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    This guy is CroMagnoid, not Mtebid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by black hole View Post
    This guy is CroMagnoid, not Mtebid.
    It means a mixture of mtebid and Cro-Magnon. But the fact is that both his father and mother are Georgians and Western Georgia. I am also a mtebid.
    Your example is Soso Pavliashvili, he is a Georgian Jew, many people talk about it in Georgia, but Pavliashvili does not like it wildly.



    For example, Tsiskaridze is also a Georgian Jew who hides his Jewish origin. And he also performs on the Russian stage.

    These guys are mtebids, most of them are from western Georgia. Any anthropologist says that pontids and mtebids dominate in Georgia, and only then Armenoids (mainly southeastern Tbilisi and Kakheti).












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    The Caucasus is very unique in that it's a crossroads between Eastern Europe and West Asia. The people there tend to be quite brachycephalic with pointy noses and a good amount of body hair. The region's main phenotypes are Dinarid, Pontid, Mtebid, and Armenoid. To start off, the region has so many different languages and ethnic groups because the mountainous terrain naturally isolated the various tribes from frequent interaction. However, the overall physical appearances of the Caucasians are more or less indistinguishable when viewed as a whole. Now we have to recognize the difference between the North Caucasus (Ciscaucasia) and the South Caucasus (Transcaucasia), and how the Greater Caucasus acted as a genetic barrier between the two regions. In the present day, the area populated by North Caucasians is relatively small compared to the area populated by South Caucasians, due to heavy Russian and Ukrainian colonization of the North Caucasus during the Age of Imperalism. North Caucasians can be further subdivided into Northwest Caucasians, which include Circassians and Abkhazians, and Northeast Caucasians, which include Chechens and Ingushetians. Then we have the Iranic-speaking Ossetians and Turkic-speaking Karachays, Balkars, and Kumyks, all of whom are also phenotypically akin to other North Caucasians. As North Caucasians geographically inhabit European territory, and more often have European than Middle Eastern phenotypes, for all intents and purposes I would consider them European. Moving on to South Caucasians, there exist, from lightest to darkest, Georgians, Armenians, and Azerbaijanis. Although the former have their own subgroups (Mingrelians, Svans, Lazes), as a whole they are the closest South Caucasians in terms of pigmentation and look to Europeans. And even though many Apriticians tend to exaggerate the differences between Georgians and Armenians, the variation between the two is still quite noticeable. Georgians follow Eastern Orthodox Christianity, tying them closely with Russians and Eastern Europeans, while Armenians follow their own form of Christianity, closer to the religion's traditional Middle Eastern roots, which in a way connects them with Assyrians and other West Asian Christians. And Georgians' traditional homeland has been in the Caucasus, while Armenians stretched into Anatolia and Persia throughout their history. However, both groups have interacted with Muslims for centuries, and have resisted assimilation and integration into the greater Islamic world, whether it be confronting the Arabs, Persians, or Turks. And calling Georgians and Armenians Jews and Arabs is outright wrong, as their cultures are closer to that of Europeans than Semites, and they tend to have straight hair and brachycephalic faces while Jews and Arabs have curly hair and dolichocephalic faces, and perhaps even retain a good amount of SSA admixture. I would say that Georgians and Armenians are the easternmost extent of European civilization in the Old World, even if their geographic origins are in West Asia, and despite the two countries' long history of rivalry and antagonism, and current-day political orientations, I believe that they should set aside their religious, genetic, and cultural differences and work to improve their relationship.

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    My question is whom do South and East Asians descend from?

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    North Indians probably came from Madai, which means they are Japhetic, South Indians maybe Ham, but writers didn't knew about east asians (Japanese, Chinese, Koreans, etc.)

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    This is true Mtebid



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    Quote Originally Posted by Pater Patota View Post
    This is true Mtebid

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    more on the Armenoid side, hardly seperatable from a Anatolian Taurid as well
    basically Mtebid = Taurid/Armenid + Alpine/CM, so it is not wrong to include Cm admix since there is not local Cm variant- people act like those types are representave for whole nations like those extreme East Baltids, Alpines; Hallstatts etc. but its rather an Anthroconstruct.

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    I was told i am hardcore Mtebid.




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    ^

    Yes, you are a textbook Mtebid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by user_ View Post
    I was told i am hardcore Mtebid.
    I am also a classic real mtebid.


    Are you from western Georgia? Are you an Imeretian?
    I guessed ?

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