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Thread: How does the "Ottoman Turkish" sound like ?

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    Normal "Ottoman Turkish"texts which I read is bastardized language which a regular Turk would not understand, I think nobody except the elite spoke like that. If you would read Atatürks Nutuk in its orginal form most of us wouldn't understand it without dictionary to due excessive usage of arabic and persian words.
    The one you shared is pretty much turkish with some different grammatic and understandable.

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    Sounds no different from modern Turkish except for some words that are used here that were derived from Arabic and Persian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedora View Post
    Normal "Ottoman Turkish"texts which I read is bastardized language which a regular Turk would not understand, I think nobody except the elite spoke like that. If you would read Atatürks Nutuk in its orginal form most of us wouldn't understand it without dictionary to due excessive usage of arabic and persian words.
    The one you shared is pretty much turkish with some different grammatic and understandable.
    Yes thats why i posted this version otherwise it would sound very Arabo-Persian mix let me quote what i said again

    Quote Originally Posted by Edgü View Post
    There is a reason for why its called Divan language
    Quote Originally Posted by Edgü View Post
    Its vocabulary is Persian and Arabic
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    "Divan language is mostly used by Pashas, Viziers and Sultan himself but its only used as a writing language"


    Imagine a Sultan speaking to the villagers with this language would the villagers understand him ?
    Definitely No
    and i agree with you its very foreign in vocabulary you need an additional Dictionary to read it otherwise you wouldnt understand a shit

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    You mean the language spoken by only a bunch of elites around the Ottoman palace? or just the regular Anatolian folk which spoke basic Turkish?

    If it's the latter; well it's pretty much alien to me. It sounds a mix of Arabic and Persian, not much trace of any Turkic influence. Very degenerated language. Thankfully we speak the modern Turkish as a result of language reforms brought up by Atatürk.

    In high school I detested the literature class because it was filled with Ottoman language works.

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    Just sounds like today's Anatolian Turkish heavily mixed with Persian & Arabic words
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    Where are all the Persian and arabian influences people talk about here in this piece? Here it has less foreign influence than modern Turkish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Where are all the Persian and arabian influences people talk about here in this piece? Here it has less foreign influence than modern Turkish.
    Yeah I only heard one or 2 Persian words I think lol, it could be that most of the loans are Arabic which I could not understand and assumed was Turkish
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Yeah I only heard one or 2 Persian words I think lol, it could be that most of the loans are Arabic which I could not understand and assumed was Turkish
    Some Turks even wish they could ban the Bactrian camel (integral part of their nomadic background) from their culture. Because Europeans associate camels with arabs. Very shameful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    Where are all the Persian and arabian influences people talk about here in this piece? Here it has less foreign influence than modern Turkish.
    The example i posted has less Arabic and Persian loanwords if i posted a full text nobody would understand a thing and The people lived those times would say something similar to this if you ask them what was Ottoman language "Osmanlıca çok farklı bir dildi içinde Acem dilini, Arap dilini ve Türk dilini barındırırdı fakat ne Acem ne Arap nede Türk bu dili anlardı"


    (this is not an ottoman turkish example)
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