Help with adopted DNA

[ShieldWolf]

Hello, I am from Canada but I was adopted. I know that my genetic father is Turkish Iranian but I don't know my mother. I have my DNA test result and I have purchased a DNA coordinate from G25 Davidski Eurogenes but I do not know how to use it either. I am confused with my DNA test because I only got 4% of Turkey. This is my 23andMe, if anyone can help me figure out my ancestry I will be grateful

81.4% West Asia North Africa
81.1% North West Asia
77.0% Iran, Caucasus, Mesopotamia
4.1% Anatolia
0.3% Broadly West Asia North Africa

17.9% South Asia Central Asia
17.9% Central Asia

0.5% North Asia
0.4% Siberia
0.1% Broadly North Asia

0.2% Unassigned

Does it mean I am only 4% Turkish mostly Iranian? What is the other half?
Also, I have the coordinates but don't know how to use them. Where should I put it?

The data posted above doesn't appear to be 23&Me results. Their percentages should add up to 100%. Please post your actaul 23&Me percentages.

[Kyp]

Looks like you are Turkmen from Iran rather than Turkish my friend

If you could send me your kitnumber I could look for your matches and probably pinpoint your ancestry a bit.

[Leto]

Looks like you are Turkmen from Iran rather than Turkish my friend

From Iran with ~19% North Euro? I think he might have something else, maybe Nogai/Steppe Turkic, something of that kind.

[Kyp]

From Iran with ~19% North Euro? I think he might have something else, maybe Nogai/Steppe Turkic, something of that kind.

It's not like Iranian Turkmens genetics are well explored. There are like 5 kits available. They score like 9-14%. He could also be from an Afghan Turkmen refugee etc.. Which also are quite numberous in Iran.

But since he doesn't get Afghan regions it is less likely.

[Kaspias]

This is more important than everything you shared before

I miss that post, so we can move on now.

This is your k100 mixed-mode for K12b:

  [1,] "41.8% Karakalpak + 58.2% Yagnobi"                         "2.4835"
  [2,] "68.4% Uzbek + 31.6% Yagnobi"                              "2.8997"
  [3,] "35.2% Kazakh + 64.8% Yagnobi"                             "2.9959"
  [4,] "31.7% Kyrgyz_Bishkek + 68.3% Yagnobi"                     "3.4342"
  [5,] "32.6% Kyrgyz + 67.4% Yagnobi"                             "3.4673"
  [6,] "10.3% Latvian + 89.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                 "3.6864"
  [7,] "50.6% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 49.4% Tajiks"                "3.7467"
  [8,] "10.5% Lithuanian + 89.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"              "3.8241"
  [9,] "25.9% Kalmyk + 74.1% Yagnobi"                             "3.8358"
 [10,] "10.6% Estonian + 89.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                "3.8916"
 [11,] "10.6% Karelian + 89.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                "3.9063"
 [12,] "11.7% Southwest_Rus + 88.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"           "3.913" 
 [13,] "12.1% Rus_Smolensk + 87.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"            "3.9183"
 [14,] "12% Rus_Kostroma + 88% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                "3.9318"
 [15,] "10.3% Finnish_West + 89.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"            "3.9354"
 [16,] "11.4% PL_Warmia-Masuria + 88.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"       "3.9712"
 [17,] "11.6% PL_Mazovia + 88.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"              "3.9747"
 [18,] "31.2% Karakalpak + 68.8% Tajik_Tajikistan"                "3.9772"
 [19,] "11.5% Belorussian + 88.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"             "3.9883"
 [20,] "87.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 12.3% Veps"                    "3.9966"
 [21,] "42.3% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 57.7% Tajik_Tajikistan"      "4.0005"
 [22,] "11.8% Mordovian + 88.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"               "4.0109"
 [23,] "11.7% Rus_Tver + 88.3% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                "4.0218"
 [24,] "10.2% Finnish_East + 89.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"            "4.0225"
 [25,] "12% Sorb_Lusatia + 88% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                "4.0283"
 [26,] "11.3% Rus_North_Dvina + 88.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"         "4.0572"
 [27,] "55.7% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 44.3% Tajik_Herat"           "4.0812"
 [28,] "88% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 12% Ukrainian"                   "4.0849"
 [29,] "12% PL_GreaterPoland + 88% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"            "4.0866"
 [30,] "29% Pamiri_Rushan + 71% Uzbek"                            "4.0964"
 [31,] "11.2% Rus_Pinega + 88.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"              "4.1017"
 [32,] "54.2% Uzbeks + 45.8% Yagnobi"                             "4.118" 
 [33,] "40.6% Tajik_Tajikistan + 59.4% Uzbek"                     "4.1217"
 [34,] "13.4% Komi + 86.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                    "4.2463"
 [35,] "11.3% Swedish + 88.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                 "4.2505"
 [36,] "36.3% Bashkir + 63.7% Turkmen"                            "4.2587"
 [37,] "12.4% Slovak + 87.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                  "4.301" 
 [38,] "11.9% German + 88.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                  "4.387" 
 [39,] "21.9% Tabasaran + 78.1% Uzbek"                            "4.3922"
 [40,] "11.3% Icelandic + 88.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"               "4.393" 
 [41,] "47.6% Bashkir + 52.4% Iran_Khorasan"                      "4.4061"
 [42,] "28.9% Pamiri_Shughnan + 71.1% Uzbek"                      "4.4227"
 [43,] "25.8% Pamiri_Rushan + 74.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"           "4.4255"
 [44,] "17.3% Tatar_Kazan + 82.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"             "4.451" 
 [45,] "37.1% Bashkir + 62.9% Turkmen_Iran"                       "4.457" 
 [46,] "25.2% Mongol + 74.8% Yagnobi"                             "4.4934"
 [47,] "25.2% Kazakh + 74.8% Tajik_Tajikistan"                    "4.5003"
 [48,] "21.1% Dargin + 78.9% Uzbek"                               "4.5181"
 [49,] "26% Pamiri_Shughnan + 74% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"             "4.5189"
 [50,] "20.6% Oroqen + 79.4% Yagnobi"                             "4.5248"
 [51,] "21.4% Avar + 78.6% Uzbek"                                 "4.5415"
 [52,] "12.3% Hungarians + 87.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"              "4.6096"
 [53,] "10.9% Dutch + 89.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                   "4.6738"
 [54,] "11.3% Mixed_NW_Euro + 88.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"           "4.6785"
 [55,] "21.1% Lezgin + 78.9% Uzbek"                               "4.6861"
 [56,] "11% Irish + 89% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                       "4.6887"
 [57,] "11% Irish + 89% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                       "4.6907"
 [58,] "11.1% English_North + 88.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"           "4.7475"
 [59,] "12.3% Slovenian + 87.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"               "4.7524"
 [60,] "85.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 14.5% Udmurt"                  "4.7616"
 [61,] "20.4% Lak + 79.6% Uzbek"                                  "4.7655"
 [62,] "11.1% English_mixed + 88.9% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"           "4.8556"
 [63,] "11.2% English_South + 88.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"           "4.8602"
 [64,] "22.9% Qumuq + 77.1% Uzbek"                                "4.8736"
 [65,] "14.3% Chuvash + 85.7% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                 "4.8916"
 [66,] "12.6% Croat + 87.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                   "4.9729"
 [67,] "12.9% Bosnian + 87.1% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                 "5.0093"
 [68,] "13.2% MD_North + 86.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                "5.0194"
 [69,] "65.8% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 34.2% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa" "5.0259"
 [70,] "62.9% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 37.1% Pashtun_Kandahar"      "5.1484"
 [71,] "13.6% HUN_Szekely + 86.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"             "5.1628"
 [72,] "21.9% Kyrgyz_Bishkek + 78.1% Tajik_Tajikistan"            "5.1668"
 [73,] "22.9% Buryat + 77.1% Yagnobi"                             "5.1693"
 [74,] "61.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 38.8% Tajik_Kabul"           "5.1776"
 [75,] "22.6% Kyrgyz + 77.4% Tajik_Tajikistan"                    "5.2182"
 [76,] "67.2% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe + 32.8% Iran_Bandari"          "5.2221"
 [77,] "75% Turkmen_Uzbekistan + 25% Yagnobi"                     "5.2504"
 [78,] "57.7% Tajik_Tajikistan + 42.3% Uzbeks"                    "5.2792"
 [79,] "11.5% Bavarian_German + 88.5% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"         "5.2807"
 [80,] "13.4% MD_Center + 86.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"               "5.2808"
 [81,] "22.2% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 77.8% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"        "5.3169"
 [82,] "12.8% Mari + 87.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                    "5.3295"
 [83,] "34.8% Tajik_Tajikistan + 65.2% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"        "5.36"  
 [84,] "30.6% Tajiks + 69.4% Uzbek"                               "5.3617"
 [85,] "42.8% Bashkir + 57.2% Tajik_Herat"                        "5.3719"
 [86,] "12.6% Serb + 87.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                    "5.399" 
 [87,] "19.4% Daur + 80.6% Yagnobi"                               "5.4023"
 [88,] "25.1% Pamiri_Ishkashim + 74.9% Uzbek"                     "5.4087"
 [89,] "17.2% Kalmyk + 82.8% Tajik_Tajikistan"                    "5.4842"
 [90,] "18.7% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 81.3% Uzbek"                 "5.5058"
 [91,] "29.3% Bashkir + 70.7% Tajik_Tajikistan"                   "5.6013"
 [92,] "42.8% Uyghur + 57.2% Yagnobi"                             "5.6161"
 [93,] "54.3% Bashkir + 45.7% Iranian_Fars"                       "5.6355"
 [94,] "17.4% Chechen + 82.6% Uzbek"                              "5.6371"
 [95,] "9.6% French2 + 90.4% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                  "5.6403"
 [96,] "25.5% Tajik_Herat + 74.5% Uzbek"                          "5.6429"
 [97,] "18.6% Turk_Deliorman + 81.4% Uzbek"                       "5.695" 
 [98,] "9.4% French + 90.6% Turkmen_Uzbekistan"                   "5.6952"
 [99,] "19.4% Turk_Trakya + 80.6% Uzbek"                          "5.7023"
[100,] "16.1% MD_Gagauz + 83.9% Uzbek"                            "5.7193"

Considering we know one part of the family is connected to Iran(confirmed by 23andme region assignments), I believe most of these oracles are noice. Like, Yagnobi can be proxy for actual Khorasan Turks which reference lacks in K12b SS yet carry an equal amount of EE, and Iranian admixture. In this sense, your Iranian part looks like actually from Khorasan to me instead of Azerbaijani Turk. Besides being from Khorasan, considering you got Golestan and all Khorasan regions which are hotspots for Turkmen settlements, it is more likely that your ancestor was a Turkmen, not Turk. In addition to that thesis, a Khorasan Turk would get random Turkish regions from Eastern Anatolia, while you got none. And the last addition is your haplogroup, which known as a Turkmen haplogroup from Turkestan to Anatolia.

Moreover, as your admixture seem to be closer to Turkmens from Uzbekistan in the single population ranking, we need another population that makes you shift to Central Asian. So, we expect a more Mongoloid/Steppe breakdown in the 2nd component.


So, here are the chances IMO:

Turks and Turkmens are separate ethnic groups.

1- Khorasan Turkmen + Uzbek(Karakalpak? Uzbek? Turkmen from Uzbekistan?)
2- Khorasan Turkmen + Afghan Turkmen
3- Khorasan Turkmen + Crimean Tatar
4- Khorasan Turkmen + Bashkir, Tatar(Kazan), Chuvash

Simulated scores versus you:

I couldn't simulate Afghan Turkmen + Iranian Turkmen admixture as there is no Afghan Turkmen reference in SS. It is also likely.

Distance to:	X
6.25483613	Turkmen_CrimeanTatar
6.58237609	Turkmen_Bashkir
7.03346465	Turkmen_Uzbek
7.03346465	Turkmen_Astrakhan
9.40402175	Turkmen_Karakalpak
9.62932760	Turkmen_UzbTurk
10.90709861	Turkmen_Tatar_Kazan
12.89618645	Turkmen_Chuvash
14.73832589	Turkmen_Nogay

[Kyp]

Here an explanation for your regions on 23andme

Strong:
Golestan: Turkmen majority area, Turkish/Azerbaijani, Persian, Mazandarani minority
North Khorasan: mixed area Turkish/Azerbaijani, Kurdish, Persian, Turkmen

Medium:
South Khorasan: Persian majority, Afghan minority
Tehran: I think it's the basic North Iranian region for 23andme, people get it as region because Tehran population is from all over Iran rather than having ancestry from Tehran.
East Azerbaijan: Azerbaijani majority
Western Turkey: Turkish

Weak:
Zanjan: Azerbaijani/Afshar

[Leto]

Let's see his Eurogenes K13, HarappaWorld, MDLP K23b.

[Python11]

Let's see his Eurogenes K13, HarappaWorld, MDLP K23b.

Looks like you are Turkmen from Iran rather than Turkish my friend

If you could send me your kitnumber I could look for your matches and probably pinpoint your ancestry a bit.

Ok guys, I am making a new GEDmatch now. I will be posting all the stuff requested ASAP

[Python11]

The data posted above doesn't appear to be 23&Me results. Their percentages should add up to 100%. Please post your actaul 23&Me percentages.

I don’t know what you mean, maybe because of unassigned percentage? Or 23andMe error?
81.4% West Asia North Africa + 17.9% South Asia Central Asia + 0.5% North Asia + 0.2% Unassigned, should be 100%?

[Leto]

Ok guys, I am making a new GEDmatch now. I will be posting all the stuff requested ASAP

What do you look like? Is the East Eurasian/Mongoloid apparent in your phenotype?