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    Default Is it true that Finns are lighter than Scandinavians but tan better?

    What do you think?

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    A majority of studies say Finns are lighter(particularly SW Finns, and if they are it's within margin of error range most likely), no idea about tanning ability. If I had to guess Swedes/Danes probably have the most tanning ability, followed by Finns/Estonians, then Russians/Ukrainians/South Germans if we include N/C Europe, Ukrainians the most out of all of those.

    Brits have the least tanning ability but are among the darkest N. Euros.
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    it depends, True Finns or the other ones

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    Inhabitants of Republic of Finland are highest in EHG-au, so it is possible, that they are lighter, and should be suspected.
    On the other hand, I read somewhere, that the most palest population on average are Russians.

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    The differences are much stronger on an individual level than in a general level. As Ulev said, there are propably differences in between the Finns that may lead to this discrepancy but its nothing that someone would be able to notice immediatley.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Inhabitants of Republic of Finland are highest in EHG-au, so it is possible, that they are lighter, and should be suspected.
    On the other hand, I read somewhere, that the most palest population on average are Russians.
    EHG were majority dark haired and eyed, Uralic/Baltic(who are dark for their latitude) populations have more EHG, Russians have among the highest tanning ability(as do Germanics).
    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    EHG were majority dark haired and eyed
    This is yet another myth which you have to abandon to believe...

    But even if, it doesn't mean, they hadn't palest skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    This is yet another myth which you have to abandon to believe...
    I've posted you the pigmentation data and SNP calls numerous times 2 years ago. Only SHG and Baltic HG(Narva, not the later EHG migrants) had decent amounts of blondism and were fully light eyed, EHG(also Ukraine HG) were majority brown eyed and literally only have 1 dark blonde individual(and blonde in this case is just medium/light brown as a vast majority of Englishmen are predicted to be blonde by Hirisplex while they are not) out of a sample size of 10+ now(no that isn't including Ukraine HGs, and yes, they were also darker skinned/less SLC45A2). Of course all of this is a pseudo-science(or atleast early, flawed science) but this is what you're referring to when making your point. Give me contrary data, not random rambling.
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    The Guanche skulls as a whole are unlike those of modern European Mediterraneans, and resemble northern European series most closely, especially those in which a brachycephalic element is present, as in Burgundian and Alemanni series.
    divided them into clearly differentiated types, which include a Mediterranean, a Nordic, a "Guanche," and an Alpine. The "Guanche" accounts for 50 per cent of the whole on the four islands of Teneriffe, Gomera, Gran Canaria, and Hierro; the Nordic for 31 per cent, the Mediterranean for 13 per cent, and the Alpine
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    Quote Originally Posted by XenophobicPrussian View Post
    random rambling.
    There will be more data soon. Just wait. But even among this what was published, it is visible.
    Also in Aftonova Gora sample, who is more described as castizo ANE, are light triats.
    I do not lead a register of every paper I read, so I do not give you a refference.
    But it is not the first time, when I was right, and everybody was wrong.

    My thesis stay the same since almost 20 years: majority if not all recessive
    traits in caucasians came from IEs, and IEs are EHG, and EHG are R1. Period.

    What I was wrong about, it was only OEs, who I thought were deeply swarthy,
    but as it came out, they were browny. But taking unto account, that they mixed
    with swarthy Farmerians, and later dominated that au, I was not wrong, as at the
    end of OEs exstence, they were factually more swarthy than blacky.

    p.s.
    SHG is clearly EHG admix, and there was even a paper published on that, and Narva became
    finally more IE than OE, being also EHG influenced so actually it only proves what I said.

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    Finns are slightly lighter, but I think they tan the same.

    I don't think Swedes / Scandinavians tan all that well, but maybe their Oompa-Loompa styled fake tan products are giving me a false impression:


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