Why english names are the most retarded in the whole IE world? It is unbearable...

[Creoda]

I don't tend to sperate Scottish from Gaelic in a historical sense.

A lot of stuff I say is Scots came from Ireland, even the name Scot as you will know. Our foundation was a Pictish/Gaelic Kingdom that then merged with North Britons, Anglo Saxons & Norse. But also took on a Norman Influence.


It's a shame we didn't get some more Anglo saxon names. A lot of Biblical names and Norman influences.




I know, it is really messed up hahaha. There are examples everywhere.

Well loads of Scottish surnames are English/Anglian origin anyway. Not even England has many Anglo-Saxon origin given names.

[Mingle]

But these are english versions, totally different than gaelic ones, anyway,
so, it's not so harmfull, as anglicized forms are always strangely different.

The Anglicized version is supposed to be spelled MacKengie and Mengies with a . The original Gaelic names are MacChoinnich ("MacKenzie") and MacMèinnear ("Menzie"). The only reason reason they're spelled with a is because they didn't have the letter <ȝ> so chose the letter that looked most like it instead of choosing the letter with the same pronunciation.

So basically, names like "MacKenzie" and "Menzies" are typos that were never corrected.

[Rethel]

are typos that were never corrected.

There are plenty of such.
Especially in US, where hundreds of thousands names have such mistakes.
In Poland we have a rule: orthographic error in surname is not an error.
Of course, error legalized and heritable, not make coincidently by a writer today.

[Mingle]

In Poland we have a rule: orthographic error in surname is not an error.
Of course, error legalized and heritable, not make coincidently by a writer today.

What are some examples of orthographic errors in Polish surnames?

[Rethel]

What are some examples of orthographic errors in Polish surnames?

For exapmle:

Ślusarz vs. Ślósaż vs Ślusasz.
Ślusarczyk vs. Ślósarczyk.
Hołownia vs. Chołownia.
Rzędzian vs. Żędzian

[rothaer]

Retardness of personal first names in english is limitless.
Why is it so, and when it started? I would devide these moronic names on five categories:

1. Meaningless syllables like Jo, Jay, Jep aso.
2. Diminutive forms of normal names like: Tony, Jimmy, Bill, Ed etc.
3. Surnames as first names, like Harrison, McKinley, Kirk, Landon, Ormond, MacKenzee aso.
4. Geographical names like: Kimberley, Leeland, Lester, Kent etc.
5. Names of items or random words like: Fanta, Tesla*, Halo, Pharaoh, Shooter, aso.

*someone probably didn't have a surname in mind, but then category third.

The most imbecilic is probably the fifth group followed by idiotic third and moronic fourth.

I ask only: WHYYY???

The high score of reterdedness in matter of names is Condoleezza Rice. Here is what is stated in english Wikipedia article on her:

"Rice was born in Birmingham, Alabama, the only child of Angelena (née Ray) Rice, a high school science, music, and oratory teacher, and John Wesley Rice, Jr., a high school guidance counselor, Presbyterian minister,[11] and dean of students at Stillman College, a historically black college in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.[12] Her name, Condoleezza, derives from the music-related term con dolcezza, which in Italian means, "with sweetness"."

It's more like a spelling error of two resembling letters ("c" and "e") rather than "derived" from "con dolcezza". And nobody cared for correcting that(!)...

[rothaer]

For exapmle:

Ślusarz vs. Ślósaż vs Ślusasz.
Ślusarczyk vs. Ślósarczyk.
Hołownia vs. Chołownia.
Rzędzian vs. Żędzian

I'm not sure about if this actually can be called an orthographic error.

I’ve been looking in church records in Poland in 18th century and f. i. there were equally Krulikiewicz and Królikiewicz written for the same family. There will have been no common orthography at that time and one spelling then is as correct as the other, no matter what later orthographic development was.

[Roy]

Yeah, why would you name your offspring Jermajesty, Peaches, Bronx Mowgli, Audio Science or Pilot Inspector? All of those are real names of Hollywood stars / celebs kids.


And don't even get me started on retarded Afram names with compulsory quotation marks like Sha'quilatean'qua or whatever.

[Chryssie Khanate]

Lmao my Polish ancestors had like four different spellings of their names and surnames on their records... and even different countries of origin.

[Roy]

For exapmle:

Ślusarz vs. Ślósaż vs Ślusasz.
Ślusarczyk vs. Ślósarczyk.
Hołownia vs. Chołownia.
Rzędzian vs. Żędzian

My grandma is the only person with her surname in Poland as there was en error when she was born. But her father also carried that misspelled surname.