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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

    Turned out he was: O-M175

    "Mahmud Ghazan (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."

    This means Öljaitu was also O-M175.


    Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.
    I have a close relative who has that Y-DNA and he is a descendant of one the Khans of one the Khanates in the Caucasus that was established by Nadir Shah in the mid-1700s.
    Last edited by Negah; 11-06-2020 at 04:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

    Turned out he was: O-M175
    It is interesting.
    So we have fictional C, probable R1b, and semi-proved O.
    I say semi, as it is one result.

    Jochi probably was R1a.

    So, quite interesting family...

    "Mahmud Ghazan (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."
    When modern english writer write "direct descendant" - it has to be doubled or trippled checked.

    Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.
    I cannot wait.
    The most interesting would be to know Achemenids, Parthians and Sassanids.
    Some of them had remaining known issue at least centuries later.
    At least Sassadnis until the late Middle Ages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altaylı View Post
    I want to see results of Seljuk Aqqoyunlu Qaraqoyunlu Safavid Shah Ismail too much
    I guess they could be IE.

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    And btw, I forgot to add, that Ilkhanids could not be descendats of Gengis Khan,
    similarly as rulers of Golden Horde, as Tołuy, father of Hulagu, is doubted to be a
    true legit son of Ghengis. The only sure sons of the Temujin were Chagatay and
    Ügedey, but their descendants live in Mongolia and China, and there should be
    focused main research. Until there will be no sure and confirm result of these
    two, then there will be always doubts, what hg of Gengis was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    It is interesting.
    So we have fictional C, probable R1b, and semi-proved O.
    I say semi, as it is one result.

    Jochi probably was R1a.

    So, quite interesting family...



    When modern english writer write "direct descendant" - it has to be doubled or trippled checked.



    I cannot wait.
    The most interesting would be to know Achemenids, Parthians and Sassanids.
    Some of them had remaining known issue at least centuries later.
    At least Sassadnis until the late Middle Ages.
    I doubt there will be on paper direct descendants of Achaemenids, Parthians and Sassandids though. Safavids and Timurids/Timur would definetly be possible.

    And btw, I forgot to add, that Ilkhanids could not be descendats of Gengis Khan,
    similarly as rulers of Golden Horde, as Tołuy, father of Hulagu, is doubted to be a
    true legit son of Ghengis. The only sure sons of the Temujin were Chagatay and
    Ügedey, but their descendants live in Mongolia and China, and there should be
    focused main research. Until there will be no sure and confirm result of these
    two, then there will be always doubts, what hg of Gengis was.
    Yes true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Negah View Post
    I have a close relative who has that Y-DNA and he is a descendant of one the Khan one the Khanates Caucasus that was established by Nadir Shah in mid 1700s.
    Interesting, which Khanate? I think YDNA O exists in some Azerbaijanis from what I've seen.
    Last edited by Kyp; 11-05-2020 at 08:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    I guess they could be IE.
    Your Mother was Indo-European. Your Father was a Turk.~ Indo-European Corded Sushi parties made it possible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    I doubt there will be on paper direct descendants of Achaemenids, Parthians and Sassandids though. Safavids and Timurids/Timur would definetly be possible.
    Descendents of Tamerlan and his Barlas tribe in India belong to C2 Starcluster. But they are not Chingisids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyp View Post
    They tested a direct descendant of the mongol Khan in Iran.

    Turned out he was: O-M175

    "Mahmud Ghazan (5 November 1271 – 11 May 1304) (Mongolian: Газан хаан, Persian: غازان خان‎, Ghazan Khan, sometimes referred to as Casanus by Westerners[2]) was the seventh ruler of the Mongol Empire's Ilkhanate division in modern-day Iran from 1295 to 1304. He was the son of Arghun, grandson of Abaqa Khan and great-grandson of Hulagu Khan continuing a long line of rulers who were direct descendants of Genghis Khan."

    This means Öljaitu was also O-M175.

    Supposedly there is a study about multiple lineages of Khans & Shahs of Iran coming out in 2022.

    Dayan Khan, direct descendent of Genghis Khan belongs to C2 M407 Haplogroup. Very commong in modern day Buryats.

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    A lot of Mongols claimed to be descendants of Ghengis, I don't think we ever know his haplo.
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