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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    I can tell you Budapest metro outside of few inner city hoods has relatively low number of Gypsies. They are concentrated in northeastern Hungary and southern Transdanubia, but I didn't know they have significant presence in central Alfold as well. If you wish I'll ask Stears to find such information in research paper. But I'm not sure they reported total percentage of Gypsies nation-wide.
    Yes Budapest is not the most dense area in this pow and its agglomeration is mainly relatively wealthy, suburb-like area.
    Also Jászság (Northern Alföld) is very dense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Why they are so many in Hungary? Even in Slovakia and Czechia seems to be many of them. I can explain why in Romania they are so many, but in these countries not.
    I do not know. Hungarian members will provide better answer. But I can confirm I saw lot of Gypsies in rural Bohemia, especially in ex-German region Sudetenland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Why they are so many in Hungary? Even in Slovakia and Czechia seems to be many of them. I can explain why in Romania they are so many, but in these countries not.
    If you look at even the official census for Romania, one of the biggest concentration of Romas/Gypsies are in the Northwestern counties that run along the border with Hungary. Maybe it's just a case of under-reporting in the rest of the counties, but if not then that coincides with Hungary's concentration along the Northeastern border. Did Hungary use to enslave them until the 19th century as in Wallchian and Moldavian principalities? If not then maybe they were escapees from slavery or just came from some other place as free nomadic travellers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pajkosbalna View Post
    Yes Budapest is not the most dense area in this pow and its agglomeration is mainly relatively wealthy, suburb-like area.
    Also Jászság (Northern Alföld) is very dense.
    North Alföld is not really, there is 2,5 million people in Budapest agglomeration and 3 million in Pest country + Budapest together. Almost every 3. hungarian live in this little area and in the capital:



    Population of Jász Nagykun Szolnok is 380000, Hajdú-Bihar is half million, it's not much compared to Transdanubia.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Why they are so many in Hungary?
    Just some part of Hungary. Most hungarian gypsies live in North East (Borsod, Nógrád, Heves, Szabolcs), if we would cut this area the number of gypsies would be not much in Hungary. I can tell you this North East area is a totally different world inside Hungary especially Borsod. It's pure Balkan in negative way more than South Hungary, the crime rate is extremely high and the public safety is very low. The problem is the local hungarians adopted this gypsie mentality as well, many people have knife or baseball bat in the car, big gold necklaces agressive mentality, they also have very strong regional identity. Everyone calling Borsod just Mordor. There was a football or handball match with slovaks in Borsod many years ago and the slovak travel agency suggested it's not good idea to travet there because it's dangerous. It's a parody video how to survive in Borsod:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Everyone calling Borsod just Mordor.
    You made my day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aspirin View Post
    Why they are so many in Hungary? Even in Slovakia and Czechia seems to be many of them. I can explain why in Romania they are so many, but in these countries not.
    I think it's because of further migrations from the East and Southeast Europe in history (from today's Romania, Bulgaria, etc).

    There's even a small Gabor Gypsy community in Borsod county (near the border of Slovakia-Hungary). I've been there and I know the priest from that town and they go to the church there as well. There are Gypsies who call themselves ,,Oláh cigányok" in Hungarian (in Romanian it literally means Vlach Gypsies)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion Basescul View Post
    If you look at even the official census for Romania, one of the biggest concentration of Romas/Gypsies are in the Northwestern counties that run along the border with Hungary. Maybe it's just a case of under-reporting in the rest of the counties, but if not then that coincides with Hungary's concentration along the Northeastern border. Did Hungary use to enslave them until the 19th century as in Wallchian and Moldavian principalities? If not then maybe they were escapees from slavery or just came from some other place as free nomadic travellers.
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    Maybe Blondie or someone else who knows the history of the area better and can detail on it, but there is a group of clear Gypsy-Hungarian-Ukrainian-Romanian mixed people in W Ukraine on the border between Slovakia and Romania (Transcarpathia). As far as it could be understood, said people were originally Gypsies who migrated from Transylvania after they stopped having work to do around the mines and the camps around the mines and spread around, so perhaps they just found a somewhat stable place in that particular region of SE Slovakia, E Hungary and W Ukraine?


    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    Everyone calling Borsod just Mordor. There was a football or handball match with slovaks in Borsod many years ago and the slovak travel agency suggested it's not good idea to travet there because it's dangerous. I
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
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    Nation wide average seem to be slightly above 10% in my estimation, a very high percentage especially considering data is 2 years old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stearsolina View Post
    Nation wide average seem to be slightly above 10% in my estimation, a very high percentage especially considering data is 2 years old.
    Out of my 5 close friends, 2 are ethnic Roma and 1 is half Roma half Hungarian-German, 1 Hungarian-German, 1 Hungarian (with 1 Jewish grandparent I think). And I'm dat Balkan boi in the group Yes I think this is a high percentage/ratio compared to the total Hungarian population.

    Stearsolina do you have ethnic Romani friends / connections in Hungary? This is another topic, but my family is a little too sensitive about them, I only care about their attitude towards me and our friendship.

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