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    Quote Originally Posted by Trouble View Post
    Mongolia is an outlier.
    Not a single average under 2.5% for Japan.

    Distance to: Japanese
    0.03297112 Korean
    0.05584914 Han_Henan
    0.05605197 Han_Shandong
    0.05841337 Han_Shanxi
    0.06392752 Han_Jiangsu
    0.06494980 Han_Shanghai
    0.06570411 Mongola
    0.06788816 Yugur
    0.06920993 Han_Zhejiang
    0.07173879 Han_Hubei
    0.07325979 Xibo
    0.07806033 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.07914624 Han_Sichuan
    0.08288665 Tu
    0.08458356 Han_Fujian
    0.08510460 Qiang_Danba
    0.08521747 Bonan
    0.08631849 Tibetan_Gannan
    0.08877742 Tujia
    0.08967459 Naxi
    0.09058047 Han_Chongqing
    0.09198943 Yi
    0.09290024 Tibetan_Yajiang
    0.09408978 Tibetan_Xunhua
    0.09501304 Dungan
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    Not a single average under 2.5% for Japan.

    Distance to: Japanese
    0.03297112 Korean
    0.05584914 Han_Henan
    0.05605197 Han_Shandong
    0.05841337 Han_Shanxi
    0.06392752 Han_Jiangsu
    0.06494980 Han_Shanghai
    0.06570411 Mongola
    0.06788816 Yugur
    0.06920993 Han_Zhejiang
    0.07173879 Han_Hubei
    0.07325979 Xibo
    0.07806033 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.07914624 Han_Sichuan
    0.08288665 Tu
    0.08458356 Han_Fujian
    0.08510460 Qiang_Danba
    0.08521747 Bonan
    0.08631849 Tibetan_Gannan
    0.08877742 Tujia
    0.08967459 Naxi
    0.09058047 Han_Chongqing
    0.09198943 Yi
    0.09290024 Tibetan_Yajiang
    0.09408978 Tibetan_Xunhua
    0.09501304 Dungan
    Still, not as large as the differences between Europeans. Or considering distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebruh View Post
    Except that you forget that china is like half of east asia and 99.9 percent is just han chinese, the same ethnic group. Also worlds biggest population
    That's a matter of demographics, not genetics.
    Eurogenes K13: North_Dutch + Spanish_Murcia + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.395628

    G25 Ancient + Modern: Distance: 3.0211% / 0.03021062
    48.2 VK2020_England_Dorset_VA
    19.0 VK2020_Isle_Of_Man_VA
    16.2 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
    10.0 French_Paris
    6.6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    That's a matter of demographics, not genetics.
    It is if most of east asians is just han chinese

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyoHazuki View Post
    Not a single average under 2.5% for Japan.

    Distance to: Japanese
    0.03297112 Korean
    0.05584914 Han_Henan
    0.05605197 Han_Shandong
    0.05841337 Han_Shanxi
    0.06392752 Han_Jiangsu
    0.06494980 Han_Shanghai
    0.06570411 Mongola
    0.06788816 Yugur
    0.06920993 Han_Zhejiang
    0.07173879 Han_Hubei
    0.07325979 Xibo
    0.07806033 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.07914624 Han_Sichuan
    0.08288665 Tu
    0.08458356 Han_Fujian
    0.08510460 Qiang_Danba
    0.08521747 Bonan
    0.08631849 Tibetan_Gannan
    0.08877742 Tujia
    0.08967459 Naxi
    0.09058047 Han_Chongqing
    0.09198943 Yi
    0.09290024 Tibetan_Yajiang
    0.09408978 Tibetan_Xunhua
    0.09501304 Dungan
    Since you mentioned Mongolia in the previous reply, I think counting Saamis and other Uralics as Euros is also ok.

    Can you find an East Asian population who have as large genetic distance as these groups?

    Distance to: Saami
    0.22829387 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.23372069 Spanish_Canarias
    0.24400434 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.24720646 Sicilian_West
    0.25320974 Maltese
    0.25336900 Italian_Apulia
    0.25392277 Sicilian_East
    0.25706015 Italian_Campania
    0.25861836 Italian_Calabria
    0.25896863 Greek_Crete
    0.26644983 Greek_Kos

    Distance to: Udmurt
    0.22171058 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.22497425 Spanish_Canarias
    0.22730960 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.23144015 Sicilian_West
    0.23567423 Maltese
    0.23574007 Italian_Apulia
    0.23678257 Sicilian_East
    0.23843159 Greek_Crete
    0.23860309 Italian_Campania
    0.23968753 Italian_Calabria
    0.24524503 Greek_Kos

    Distance to: Mari
    0.26479046 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.26656889 Spanish_Canarias
    0.27161353 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.27224534 Sicilian_West
    0.27717136 Maltese
    0.27782882 Sicilian_East
    0.27806360 Italian_Apulia
    0.27966677 Greek_Crete
    0.28056857 Italian_Campania
    0.28108040 Italian_Calabria
    0.28658993 Greek_Kos
    Last edited by Maguzanci; 11-17-2020 at 05:53 AM.

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    East Asians by far if you include the ANE-rich populations of Amuria and Southern Siberia.
    Ezekiel 18:4

    Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deusex99 View Post
    East Asians by far if you include the ANE-rich populations of Amuria and Southern Siberia.
    I'm not really sure. Here are some ethnic groups from Amur and South Siberia compare to Saamis, Uralics to Europeans

    Distance to: Ulchi
    0.15200668 Tibetan_Gangcha
    0.15950855 Japanese
    0.16049594 Korean
    0.16219973 Tibetan_Nagqu
    0.16404289 Tibetan_Chamdo
    0.16430175 Tibetan_Lhasa
    0.16462290 Tibetan_Shigatse
    0.17487573 Han_Shanxi
    0.17890446 Han_Henan
    0.17991311 Han_Shandong
    0.18063772 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.18754084 Naxi
    0.20216386 Han_Zhejiang
    0.20512137 Han_Sichuan
    0.21738177 Han_Fujian
    0.23393537 Han_Guangdong


    Distance to: Udmurt
    0.22171058 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.22497425 Spanish_Canarias
    0.22730960 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.23144015 Sicilian_West
    0.23567423 Maltese
    0.23574007 Italian_Apulia
    0.23678257 Sicilian_East
    0.23843159 Greek_Crete
    0.23860309 Italian_Campania
    0.23968753 Italian_Calabria
    0.24524503 Greek_Kos
    0.24681937 Italian_Jew
    0.25102600 Greek_Central_Anatolia
    0.25684918 Greek_Trabzon
    0.25897481 Cypriot
    0.28517508 Sardinian

    Or this:

    Distance to: Tuvinian
    0.16978896 Tibetan_Gangcha
    0.18803828 Tibetan_Shigatse
    0.18905706 Tibetan_Lhasa
    0.19060436 Tibetan_Nagqu
    0.19663307 Tibetan_Chamdo
    0.21879619 Han_Shanxi
    0.22029273 Japanese
    0.22038200 Korean
    0.22060356 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.22384128 Naxi
    0.22592925 Han_Henan
    0.22890134 Han_Shandong
    0.24991120 Han_Sichuan
    0.25136102 Han_Zhejiang
    0.26338888 Han_Fujian
    0.27587160 Han_Guangdong

    Distance to: Saami
    0.22829387 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.23372069 Spanish_Canarias
    0.24400434 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.24720646 Sicilian_West
    0.25320974 Maltese
    0.25336900 Italian_Apulia
    0.25392277 Sicilian_East
    0.25706015 Italian_Campania
    0.25861836 Italian_Calabria
    0.25896863 Greek_Crete
    0.26635079 Italian_Jew
    0.26644983 Greek_Kos
    0.27544258 Greek_Central_Anatolia
    0.28208573 Cypriot
    0.28466368 Greek_Trabzon
    0.29179020 Sardinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deusex99 View Post
    East Asians by far if you include the ANE-rich populations of Amuria and Southern Siberia.
    I'm not really sure. Here are some ethnic groups from Amur and South Siberia compare to Saamis, Uralics to Europeans

    Distance to: Ulchi
    0.15200668 Tibetan_Gangcha
    0.15950855 Japanese
    0.16049594 Korean
    0.16219973 Tibetan_Nagqu
    0.16404289 Tibetan_Chamdo
    0.16430175 Tibetan_Lhasa
    0.16462290 Tibetan_Shigatse
    0.17487573 Han_Shanxi
    0.17890446 Han_Henan
    0.17991311 Han_Shandong
    0.18063772 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.18754084 Naxi
    0.20216386 Han_Zhejiang
    0.20512137 Han_Sichuan
    0.21738177 Han_Fujian
    0.23393537 Han_Guangdong


    Distance to: Udmurt
    0.22171058 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.22497425 Spanish_Canarias
    0.22730960 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.23144015 Sicilian_West
    0.23567423 Maltese
    0.23574007 Italian_Apulia
    0.23678257 Sicilian_East
    0.23843159 Greek_Crete
    0.23860309 Italian_Campania
    0.23968753 Italian_Calabria
    0.24524503 Greek_Kos
    0.24681937 Italian_Jew
    0.25102600 Greek_Central_Anatolia
    0.25684918 Greek_Trabzon
    0.25897481 Cypriot
    0.28517508 Sardinian

    Or this:

    Distance to: Tuvinian
    0.16978896 Tibetan_Gangcha
    0.18803828 Tibetan_Shigatse
    0.18905706 Tibetan_Lhasa
    0.19060436 Tibetan_Nagqu
    0.19663307 Tibetan_Chamdo
    0.21879619 Han_Shanxi
    0.22029273 Japanese
    0.22038200 Korean
    0.22060356 Tibetan_Xinlong
    0.22384128 Naxi
    0.22592925 Han_Henan
    0.22890134 Han_Shandong
    0.24991120 Han_Sichuan
    0.25136102 Han_Zhejiang
    0.26338888 Han_Fujian
    0.27587160 Han_Guangdong

    Distance to: Saami
    0.22829387 Spanish_Andalucia
    0.23372069 Spanish_Canarias
    0.24400434 Greek_Peloponnese
    0.24720646 Sicilian_West
    0.25320974 Maltese
    0.25336900 Italian_Apulia
    0.25392277 Sicilian_East
    0.25706015 Italian_Campania
    0.25861836 Italian_Calabria
    0.25896863 Greek_Crete
    0.26635079 Italian_Jew
    0.26644983 Greek_Kos
    0.27544258 Greek_Central_Anatolia
    0.28208573 Cypriot
    0.28466368 Greek_Trabzon
    0.29179020 Sardinian

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    Bump.

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    Aren't Taiwanese aboriginals a very fringe autochthonous east asian population too? Do you have Atayal results or something similar?

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