Debate a marxist !

[JamesBond007]

I'm a marxist I believe it is the truth and that it will eventualy liberate humanity from disease, poverty and oppression.

If you believe marxism is incorrect or are opposed to it for any reason at all feel free to debate me here on why you are not a marxist or do not believe in marxism.

[Mortimer]

What exactly do you believe in as a Marxist that's what Im curious about

[Blondie]

If you are marxist why don't you live in North Korea?

[Marmara]

Where do marxists go when they die?

[pulstar]

I'm a marxist I believe it is the truth and that it will eventualy liberate humanity from disease, poverty and oppression.

If you believe marxism is incorrect or are opposed to it for any reason at all feel free to debate me here on why you are not a marxist or do not believe in marxism.

Why am I not a marxist or don't believe in marxism?

[JamesBond007]

What exactly do you believe in as a Marxist that's what Im curious about

I personally believe Karl Marx's ideas are not perfect but plausible. The "commodification" of social life , the culture of greed, aggression, mindless hedonism, alienation and nhihilism, the steady bleeding of meaning and value from human existence etc... it is very hard to find an intelligent discussion of these problems that are not indebted the marxist tradition. So many things can be analyzed via marxism that I think your question is too open ended and vague. If you want to learn more about Marxism I can recommend some books but don't expect me to be your personal professor.

[Mortimer]

I personally believe Karl Marx's ideas are not perfect but plausible. The "commodification" of social life , the culture of greed, aggression, mindless hedonism, alienation and nhihilism, the steady bleeding of meaning and value from human existence etc... it is very hard to find an intelligent discussion of these problems that are not indebted the marxist tradition. So many things can be analyzed via marxism that I think your question is too open ended and vague. If you want to learn more about Marxism I can recommend some books but don't expect me to be your personal professor.

Do you think bayzous are Marxists? Bayzous is a Chinese term means educated western person who obsesses over feminism lgbtq political correctness etc

[JamesBond007]

If you are marxist why don't you live in North Korea?

Because North Korea, Soviet Russia , Moaist China etc.. etc.. were not and are not Communist. A lot of people don't realize that Communism is not supposed to take place or the revolution until capitalism has reached its maximum output capacity : that is pretty close to the opposite state of affairs of peasants trying to first industrialize their country while under dictatorial rule. In true Communism there is no state so there can be no dictators or tyrants. The question is has Capitalism reached it's maximum output capacity yet or will communism only be achieved with more automation, AI and robotics etc...

[AdrianV]

Because North Korea, Soviet Russia , Moaist China etc.. etc.. were not and are not Communist. A lot of people don't realize that Communism is not supposed to take place or the revolution until capitalism has reached its maximum output capacity : that is pretty close to the opposite state of affairs of peasants trying to first industrialize their country while under dictatorial rule. In true Communism there is no state so there can be no dictators or tyrants. The question is has Capitalism reached it's maximum output capacity yet or will communism only be achieved with more automation, AI and robotics etc...

But of course there are dictators and tryants and borders and a state in reality. Your suggestion is nothing but theory. In practice the same stuff always happens the leaders of the revolution steal the money, real estate, business of others (under the guise of a more equal society) and then genocide those that disagree with them or put them in slave labor prisons.

[KirillMazur]

Marxism (in its pure, unadapted form) is not the liberation of workers from exploitation, but on the contrary, it is when 1% of slave owners subject to total control and poverty 99% of the population.
That's right, neither Russia, China, nor the West were Marxist in the 20th century, since the level of technology and industrial development did not allow this.
But it has become available now. Read the books by Klaus Schwab and his speeches at the World Economic Forum - he is the main ideologue of globalization and the worldwide "reset", the beginning of which was marked by COVID-19.
Hand in hand with the Great Reset is the Fourth Industrial Revolution, also a term coined by Schwab.
The idea of 4IR is to save the planet and develop AI technologies, to reduce CO2 to zero, which means the death of the real sector of the economy. Everything is very nicely packaged and just right apple trees on Mars, artificial intelligence in the service of man. Only if you look closely, you get a pure anti-utopia.
Equality, resource allocation, machine assistance, artificial intelligence to humans, and other Orwellian newspeak. But what actually stands behind the facade, all this has one name - TECHNOCRACY. Those. centralized management of countries, societies, resources, which will be carried out by a thin layer of technocrats, whom no one chose or appointed, all under a Marxist sauce, and as the main goal - total control.
Schwab clearly states that bodies will become so high-tech that the line between body and technology will be erased. It also says that "they" will have access to our thoughts and desires and will be able to manipulate them. This is pure transhumanism and a digital concentration camp. Education will also be fully digital, and censorship will be at the unattainable level.

There will be new castes of people - genRich genPoor - these are those who went for genetic modification and who did not. Etc.

In fact, the root ideology of this great reset is Marxism. I, of course, support the social state with all my hands, and capitalism in the form of Western colonial expansion is certainly evil, but what the globalists are proposing is an absolute hell.

To understand what ideology is - I need to look at who financed and what it led to. In 1995, the famous historian and economist Anthony Sutton publishes The Federal Reserve Conspiracy, in which he actually proves who actually financed the work of Marx and Engels. Marx had four sources of funding, and they all go back to the power elites in Germany and the United States. The financiers are Jean Laffitte, Clinton Roosevelt, and several other representatives of the German elites. By the way, it was in those years that the first industrial revolution unfolded. Marx and Engels were needed exclusively for geopolitical purposes and in the internal struggle of the ruling elites. As a result, one of the geopolitical enemies of the West, the Russian Empire, was crushed and trampled. It was able to recover in the form of the USSR, but only for a miserable 70 years, after which the communists themselves surrendered their own country, and the Russian Federation became a colony. Western strategists plan for centuries to come. Therefore, Marxism works and works perfectly.

Marx is essentially the first ideologist and technologist of color revolutions, and Marxism is the first theory of globalization. How is Marx saying? - "the proletariat has no fatherland." Erasure of national sovereignty with the clearing of the field for only one hegemon state. This has been successful throughout the world over the past century and a half. The first part to the worldwide concentration camp is almost complete.
Remember the predictions of the Marxists that private property will disappear? I will cite here a quote from the Communist Party's manifesto - "the theory of communism can be summarized in one sentence, the abolition of private property," and it does not matter whether private ownership of the means of production is or not. Planet Earth is also a means of production.
If in the 19th century the proletariat and its rights were the flag for the Marxists, now the proletariat has been replaced by the Greens, BLM, minorities, etc. But the essence of this has not changed.
Also, churches will be banned, now during lockdowns they have long been closed.
As always, Comrade Stalin was right - he understood all this and tried to thoroughly remove all these Marxist backdoors from communist theory, but did not succeed as he was killed.