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    I once took an undergraduate college class on the history of Marxism. The professor pointed out that if Marxism is as deficient as its critics say, we wouldn't be talking about it today, it would have been forgotten like so many other economic and cultural theories produced over the centuries. In other words, it has some merit and so it survives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daco Celtic View Post
    I once took an undergraduate college class on the history of Marxism. The professor pointed out that if Marxism is as deficient as its critics say, we wouldn't be talking about it today, it would have been forgotten like so many other economic and cultural theories produced over the centuries. In other words, it has some merit and so it survives.
    The only element that survives in the Cultural side. The economic side proved such a failure that the "theorists" then jumped to the cultural aspect. Which is nothing more than a satanic genocidal plan to destroy W. Civilization (people of European ancestry), Christianity etc. Nothing more than the people whose race/ethnicity is dominant in a society they automatically have the power over the minority (are born racist) so their system must be destroyed. Of course they never have a coherent plan for what replaces the culture/constitution etc. Like Scientology, where idiots pay money for courses, then graduate from course to course handing over their money and then they finally complete the final course and they you peel back the curtain....and there is nothing. It was just a scam.

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    A little more about the "great reset" according to Schwab and the globalists.
    As many as 10 years ago, American professor Richard Florida wrote the book "The Great Reset", in which he "predicts" the economic crisis in 2020, which will trigger the great reset and the fourth industrial revolution. And Schwab published the books "Fourth Industrial Revolution" and "Shaping the Forth Industrial Revolution" from 2016 to 2018. And in July 2020, he published a book in collaboration with another figure, which he calls quite simply - CV-19 and the great reboot. A very prolific and perspicacious writer.


    Overall, the great reboot can be summarized as follows:

    🔘- Globally centralized economy - read centralized in the current world hegemon USA. In general, whenever you see the word "global" in some propaganda materials, it almost always means one thing - American. So here is a centralized economy with a main focus on sustainable development in all sectors, industries and everyday private life. I will explain here that the word sustainable is not exactly “sustainable development” as it is translated in Russia. This almost always means the transition to supposedly waste-free production, reducing CO2 to zero (!), And other eco-nazi greens. I am sure that people working in industry understand that at this stage green energy is something like a unicorn's tears - at worst, unrealistic, and at best, expensive and inefficient.
    🔘- Huge tax increases and central control over income distribution - “top-down spending”, which should create prosperity with an emphasis on equality through technology and reformatting the social environment. We, Russians, went through it all, and you can't lull us with such fairy tales.
    🔘-Reducing and eliminating private property of anything, including movable and immovable property. Yes, deprivation of private property. And I'll tell you below how this will happen. We also went through this.
    🔘- Digitalization of everything and everyone through the abolition of cash and through robotization, artificial intelligence and other aspects of the fourth industrial revolution.
    🔘- Switch from shareholder capitalism to stakeholder capitalism
    Let me dwell on these terms shareholder capitalism and stakeholder capitalism. This is very important to understand. This is the whole point.
    Literally, a shareholder is someone who has ownership and management rights, whether through shares or as a founder. Stakeholder is essentially an ordinary employee or participant, not the owner of a share. So, if capitalism changes from a system of shareholders to stakeholders, this means only one thing - control over your own business will be minimized and / or eliminated. If you are a large business, it is minimized, and if you are a medium or small business, it is completely eliminated. On the contrary, monopolists will get fabulous profits and fabulous control.
    Surprisingly, Schwab proposed this terminology back in 71, just the year the WEF was founded, in his book "Modern Enterprise Management in Mechanical Engineering", in which he defined people not as citizens, free individuals or members of society, but as secondary participants in huge commercial sector. This is stakeholder capitalism - the world is ruled by 1 percent of the oligarchy, and all the rest are secondary participants in a huge, interconnected sector, and everything is under the auspices of the "social contract", this is also newspeak, and freedom, equality, brotherhood, of course.
    The WEF website already has a metric by which businesses will be evaluated. It is called "4 pillars". All businesses will have to meet these pillars in the future. As someone who has been interested for a long time, I will tell you right away that only huge monopolists can match them. Not every big business will survive. Medium and small, which have not yet been destroyed by lockdowns, will be destroyed and crushed by the “pillars”. Even purely from the point of view of compliance, you will have to hire huge legal corporations, since everything will be extremely bureaucratic. I am silent about taxes in favor of the poor. Therefore, there will be either bankruptcy, or a sale, or a merger with monopolists, depending on the size of the business. In essence, this is the elimination of the middle class and the polarization of society - there will be only the poor (equality and brotherhood) and one percent of the ruling oligarchy.


    Back in 2019, the Financial Times launched an agitation video about the change from the capitalist model to the stakeholder one. This campaign clearly states that all companies, young and old, will have to promote, believe in all the values ​​of the WEF and allocate funds for all the needs and things that the WEF and "leading companies", that is, monopolists, will designate. If you don’t obey, shares will fall, banks will refuse loans, investors will leave, and your reputation will be trampled. In fact, this is totalitarianism, where the role of the state will be performed by global monopolistic monsters like Monsanto, Microsoft, etc., the states will be in the role of watchdogs for the tax burden, reugulations, etc. - and the WEF and the UN (non-elected structures) will be the ideologists. The scheme is not new, once the whole colony of India on behalf of Britain was run by a private East Indian company. Politicians in individual countries can do absolutely nothing in contradiction. They (the politicians) still act according to the same instructions, and the great reset has not even happened yet.

    And there is one more important factor. According to Schwab himself, the great reset will not happen if there is no global transition to these rails, that is, they count on the unipolarity of the world. And if at least one of the significant countries for some reason has the courage and resources to go against it, everything will fall apart. Russia has this resource. The process of leaving the colonial status began long ago. It will now gain momentum, as the pressure from the West will increase. Therefore, I am sure that Russia will most likely again save everyone from the world concentration camp, as it did in 45. If Russia regains sovereignty, the world will automatically become multipolar, and the whole plan collapses like a house of cards. Salvation in multipolarity.
    But resistance is also rising in the west. There is very strong resistance in Britain. In Australia, politicians are already openly opposing the Great Reset. Nothing is lost yet!

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    There is a very large and insoluble contradiction in all these plans and wishes, IMO.
    Yes, outwardly everything looks logical, beautiful and feasible, but in reality everything can go a little wrong - as it did a little wrong with the USSR.
    Firstly, making a stupid cattle out of people, raising a not very smart young generation (but rather, two generations), all these Schwabs, born in normal times, overdid with it, and now the revolution will have to be done not with smart performers who have gone through natural selection in the hellish conditions of a cannibalistic society (as the Bolsheviks and fascists did in 1917 and 1933, respectively), and with morons grown in greenhouse conditions who do everything through the ass.
    Secondly, all the power and resources of the Schwabs & Co. are based and come from the old world that they are destroying.
    To build a new world, you need to destroy the old one, for this you need a lot of resources and most importantly, a lot of resources CONSTANTLY, and as a result of destruction and construction, the volume of resources decreases (GDP fell in the first wave of the struggle in Covid by 10-20%) and the flow becomes more unstable.
    Maybe there will definitely come a moment (s) when everything stupidly breaks down and stops.
    Third, it is assumed that the broad masses will believe and obey unquestioningly.

    This is by no means the case, many already understand that the corona pandemic is bullshit. And very many have the ability to resist and sabotage (and until everyone is chipped, even passive covert sabotage can gradually destroy all the Schwabs' plans like a house of cards).

    This is Claus Schwab himself. He indeed looks like very kind and caring person who can't sleep beacuse of thoughts of improving our lives. Faschist scum!

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    ^ lol that outfit. Literally looks like some N.W.O/Illuminati villain.
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    Damn, that profile picture clearly shows you're the ultimate marxist on this website

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdrianV View Post
    But of course there are dictators and tryants and borders and a state in reality. Your suggestion is nothing but theory. In practice the same stuff always happens the leaders of the revolution steal the money, real estate, business of others (under the guise of a more equal society) and then genocide those that disagree with them or put them in slave labor prisons.
    Actually, I don't feel like debating since it is reinventing the wheel your objection is answered in chapter two of this book :



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blondie View Post
    If you are marxist why don't you live in North Korea?
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    Because North Korea, Soviet Russia , Moaist China etc.. etc.. were not and are not Communist. A lot of people don't realize that Communism is not supposed to take place or the revolution until capitalism has reached its maximum output capacity : that is pretty close to the opposite state of affairs of peasants trying to first industrialize their country while under dictatorial rule. In true Communism there is no state so there can be no dictators or tyrants. The question is has Capitalism reached it's maximum output capacity yet or will communism only be achieved with more automation, AI and robotics etc...
    The reality is that this is impossible. I doubt you're truly 41, because this sounds like what a 19 year old marxist collage student would claim. If you truly believe in marxism, the way the USSR did it is the only way to go in order to work towards a communist society.

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    Killing Marxists is preferable and easier than debating them.
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    Your "beliefs" change every week. You ain't quite right in the head.

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