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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    You were trying to pretend what I said supported your argument while ignoring what I specifically said. Saying "you're clearly not a native English speaker" is a lot nicer than I would have said to someone pulling that trick.




    How is speaking two other languages fluently relevant to whether you speak English well? It's one irrational statement after another with you.
    The two languages i speak fluently are the ones i use regularily. On the contrary i never speak english with anyone, or use it otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    I speak english well enough, given the fact that i speak two other languages fluently and rarely need/use english.

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    How is speaking two other languages fluently relevant to whether you speak English well? It's one irrational statement after another with you.[/QUOTE]No, what you said supported my point in the following sense : Human moral concepts cant be applied to animals. Applying the moral concept of consent to a animal that doesnt even have self awarness doesnt make any sense.

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    Dogs have self-awareness. Intellectually they're at the level where they do have self-awareness. Your premise is wrong and so your argument is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
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    Someone's character or motive.
    You're a forum battle veteran, shitposting and defamation are your weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    The two languages i speak fluently are the ones i use regularily. On the contrary i never speak english with anyone, or use it otherwise.

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    Would it surprise you if I said I don't care? I'd rather talk about whether dogs have self-awareness than if you're the next Lord Byron.

    If I knew a mocking joke would evolve into posts about it, I would have just said you were a jackass because no one goes on and on about being called a jackass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    How is speaking two other languages fluently relevant to whether you speak English well? It's one irrational statement after another with you.
    No, what you said supported my point in the following sense : Human moral concepts cant be applied to animals. Applying the moral concept of consent to a animal that doesnt even have self awarness doesnt make any sense.

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    Dogs have self-awareness. Intellectually they're at the level where they do have self-awareness. Your premise is wrong and so your argument is wrong.[/QUOTE]So they should have human morals ? Dogs failed the mirror self recognition test. Though we can never know for sure. Since we cant access their awarness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    You're a forum battle veteran, shitposting and defamation are your weapons.

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    I'm just a guy who understands it's immoral to allow a dog to fuck you just because it's horny and may enjoy it. We can agree to disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    No, what you said supported my point in the following sense : Human moral concepts cant be applied to animals. Applying the moral concept of consent to a animal that doesnt even have self awarness doesnt make any sense.

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    Dogs have self-awareness. Intellectually they're at the level where they do have self-awareness. Your premise is wrong and so your argument is wrong.[/QUOTE]So they should have human morals ? Dogs failed the mirror self recognition test. Though we can never know for sure. Since we cant access their awarness.

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    We apply our morals to everything around us and treat intelligent animals differently because they are intelligent animals.

    Dogs recognize their own odor as being themselves. That in itself is evidence of self-awareness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Would it surprise you if I said I don't care? I'd rather talk about whether dogs have self-awareness than if you're the next Lord Byron.

    If I knew a mocking joke would evolve into posts about it, I would have just said you were a jackass because no one goes on and on about being called a jackass.
    Im cool with that, just not with the fact that you are willingly or unknowingly misunderstanding/misinterpretating my point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel Frank Grimes View Post
    Dogs have self-awareness. Intellectually they're at the level where they do have self-awareness. Your premise is wrong and so your argument is wrong.
    So they should have human morals ? Dogs failed the mirror self recognition test. Though we can never know for sure. Since we cant access their awarness.

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    We apply our morals to everything around us and treat intelligent animals differently because they are intelligent animals.

    Dogs recognize their own odor as being themselves. That in itself is evidence of self-awareness.[/QUOTE]

    Self recognition via olfactory sensory input doesnt fall into higher cognition if you ask me. Pretty much all mammals recognize their offspring for example by their smell. And im pretty sure that if they can recognize the smell of their offspring they can also recognize their own.

    Bears for example also mark their territory, leaving their scent on trees by rubbing against them. They should also be able to differentiate between their smell and that of others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleitus View Post
    Im cool with that, just not with the fact that you are willingly or unknowingly misunderstanding/misinterpretating my point.

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    I didn't misunderstand or misinterpret your point. What I take issue with is that you ignored what I specifically said about intelligence in my post and then claimed I was supporting your argument, which clearly wasn't the case, and then try to move the argument away from addressing my argument in favor of speaking of your own as if mine was already addressed, which it hadn't. Only recently you made an attempt to address what I said by speaking of self-awareness.

    This conversation is going nowhere and I don't know if I want to spend the rest of my Christmas Eve talking about whether or not it's immoral for a person to allow a dog to fuck them. It wasn't on my 'to do list' for today. Only at Apricity, though.

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