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    Quote Originally Posted by Azbuzz View Post
    Some examples of Parsis include:
    Appro Farrokh Bulsara
    Sam maneckshaw
    Zubin Mehta
    Jamshyd Godrej
    Mercury - Iranian/Middle Eastern
    Maneckshaw - West Asian/Southern Euro
    Mehta - Pakistan
    Godrej - European/Caucasus/NW Asian

    Wouldn't guess them as Indian, only maybe Mehta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Mercury - Iranian/Middle Eastern
    Maneckshaw - West Asian/Southern Euro
    Mehta - Pakistan
    Godrej - European/Caucasus/NW Asian

    Wouldn't guess them as Indian, only maybe Mehta.
    Makes sense. We are mostly not Indian genetically.

    Mehta looks like Gregory Peck lmao. If you didn't know his ancestry where would you guess him from?(without being influenced).

    By Pakistan do you mean Indic groups or Iranic group (like Pashtuns and Baluchis)? Because an Indic Pakistani (the majority- Punjabis and Sindhis, ) look exactly like Indians because they are the same group. Keep in mind that every Iranic group present in Pakistan is present in abundance in India too(Pathans, Baluchis). India pak used to be one country until very recently.

    Lastly, have you met any Parsis? What would you guess their average phenotype as? DO NOT totally trust google images because it has pictures of Hindus /Indians and Indian actors as when you google Parsi because the two groups have similar wedding clothing and Parsis are very small so they get confused as Hindus due to sarees etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azbuzz View Post
    Makes sense. We are mostly not Indian genetically.

    Mehta looks like Gregory Peck lmao. If you didn't know his ancestry where would you guess him from?(without being influenced).

    By Pakistan do you mean Indic groups or Iranic group (like Pashtuns and Baluchis)? Because an Indic Pakistani (the majority- Punjabis and Sindhis, ) look exactly like Indians because they are the same group. Keep in mind that every Iranic group present in Pakistan is present in abundance in India too(Pathans, Baluchis). India pak used to be one country until very recently.

    Lastly, have you met any Parsis? What would you guess their average phenotype as? DO NOT totally trust google images because it has pictures of Hindus /Indians and Indian actors as when you google Parsi because the two groups have similar wedding clothing and Parsis are very small so they get confused as Hindus due to sarees etc.
    I meant I'd probably assume he was from Pakistan, or a light caste Indian (which he is), or possibly Afghan/Iranian. He would fall into the Iranic group as I know that Parsi's are of Persian origin.

    No I haven't met any Parsi's that I can remember. I'm ill-informed on specific Asian groups and their differences beyond the obvious, but I assume they generally look like their origins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    I meant I'd probably assume he was from Pakistan, or a light caste Indian (which he is),
    Us Parsis are Zoroastrian. It is unthinkable for us to discriminate against someone based on their 'caste'. Zoroastrianism is much more different from Hinduism (no caste system) and remarkably similar in many aspects to the Abrahamic religions (it was the first monthestic religion after all).
    It always surprises me how everyone little people know about Zoroasteianism and how everyone assumes Parsis are Hindu when it couldn't be more different. We are literally descendants of the people "who once ruled the world" haha , and whatever religion you follow most likely has heavy influences from Zoroasters' teachings.

    So no, Mehta isnt a 'light caste' Indian because he isn't even Hindu. He has no caste. Also, many 'high caste Indians have very dark skin. Skin color doesn't completely relate to class level.

    If you want to see more Parsi phenotype, I just posted my picture in the Anthro forum too. You can see/comment there if you'd like. I can also give you my GEDmatch results if you are interested to learn more.

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    parsis look like gujaratis for the most part

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    Parsi are good people
    I would say that while many do look Iranian/NW Asian many also look like their neighbors and other NW Indic groups
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    Quote Originally Posted by lameduck View Post
    parsis look like gujaratis for the most part
    There's no average Gujarati phenotype. The variation in Gujarat genes is more than any state in India. Though I'm sure you're just trying to troll or genuinely not aware of Parsis/Gujaratis.

    really don't think you understand Parsis or you are just trying to be rude. You called the whole group inconsequential and inbred in your previous comment. If we really are inbred like claim (which isnt true at all), we should look more Persian than Gujarati. Not to mention everytime a thread is made about Parsis, people say they look Jewish or Middle eastern. Explorers etc have also mentioned this in India and Parsis can be told apart by each other often too.

    I'm certain you've met less than 10 in your entire life and your comment is probably based of Google images of Parsis who are basically Hindus portraying Zoroastrians/ Parsis in movies

    A large minority do look completely Gujarati but you can still detect remote Persian ancestry. Majority look a mix or Persian.

    Again, I really don't care about your opinion if you regard us as inconsequential and inbred. It's highly likely that whatever religion you follow has been heavily influenced by mine and my group of people.

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    They look like a straight mix of Iranian+Gujarati

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Parsi are good people
    I would say that while many do look Iranian/NW Asian many also look like their neighbors and other NW Indic groups
    Have you met many Parsis? Are you basing this of Google images because a lot of those images are Hindus or Indian actors dressed as Zoroastrians.

    All Parsis posted here get told they look like Jews etc and old Portuguese explorers have said the same.

    From my experience: the majority 55 percent look like Persians and Indians mixed. They'll have clear distinguishing features like the massive hooked nose and massive ears and much hairier than Maharashtrans, smaller lips, but obvious Indic features too.
    35 percent are completely Gujarati looking
    15 percent are extremely Persian looking (for some reason most famous Parsis men fall under this category haha).
    Would you agree with this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Maul View Post
    Parsi are good people
    I would say that while many do look Iranian/NW Asian many also look like their neighbors and other NW Indic groups
    Have you met many Parsis? Are you basing this of Google images because a lot of those images are Hindus or Indian actors dressed as Zoroastrians.

    All Parsis posted here get told they look like Jews etc and old Portuguese explorers have said the same.

    From my experience: the majority 55 percent look like Persians and Indians mixed. They'll have clear distinguishing Persian features like the long hooked nose and massive ears and much hairier than Maharashtrans, smaller lips, but obvious Indic features too.
    35 percent are completely Gujarati looking
    15 percent are extremely Persian looking (for some reason most famous Parsis men fall under this category haha).
    Would you agree with this?

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