Burmese or Filipinos: who is more Caucasoid?

[KuakoVoice]

From Gedmatch kits of Timorese and Moluccans that you have, do most have European and how much do they have on average?

Can you share some kits?

We have relatively much fewer testers,but here is one Timorese girls Ancestry DNA and my Ambonese Moluccan moms AncestryDNA.Both have two Orang Timur (Moluccan/Timorese,etc) parents so the mixes are ancient and or Colonial.

Timorese:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...26%23127473%3B

Ambonese Moluccan

https://ibb.co/6DSBm4j

[GaneshD'Souza]

I believe there was a sizeable Eurasian minority in the Philippines but there was also some Anglo-Burmese biracials too. However mixed Filipino Americans and people like Enrique Iglesias are a lot more prominent.

Enrique Iglesias isn't Filipino-American. He's Filipino-Spanish. His father is full Spanish while his mother is from a mestizo family in the Philippines. They've been in the Philippines for 300 years. I bet if he took a DNA test, he'd be 75-80% European, 20-25% Asian.

Enrique's mom. She looks very Asian compared to the rest of the family in the Philippines


Here's his mom's sister Victoria Tuason.

I saw her in a fancy restaurant in the Philippines and I heard her speaking Tagalog. The waiter told me she was Enrique's aunt. I would have thought she was a foreign white lady if she wasn't speaking Tagalog. But she lives in the Philippines. She married a Filipino man (because Tuason is a Filipino surname) but her daughter still looks white

This is her daughter (Enrique's cousin). The husband is also Filipino, but from another Spanish-descended family. They also live in the Philippines


Here's another of Enrique's cousins in the Philippines


The husband in this family is an uncle of Enrique in the Philippines. The wife is from another Filipino family of Spanish-descent (Aboitiz)


The woman in this family is another cousin of his in the Philippines. The husband is from another Filipino family of Spanish-descent


So for whatever reason, Enrique's family that stayed in the Philippines is even whiter than him and his mother.

[Leto]

I know he's Spanish but I believe he has been residing in the U.S. for many years. His three children with Anna Kournikova are very white-looking, all the minor Negrito type of stuff must've been diluted in the their generation. Interestingly the kids have blonde hair (it's likely to get darker in a few years), so he must have the genes for light hair, even though Julio Iglesias has always been super tanned and dark.


(The youngest daughter is not shown)

[aja675]

I find that people often doubt me that I'm mixed. Usually, it's because of either of these reasons (or even both of them): the first pic they saw of me showed me squinting, and first impressions of one's appearance normally last (I have bulging eyes in person, and I changed my avatar because it shows me in all my bulge-eyed glory. My bio was really awkward with my old avatar next to it because it made me look like a Buddhist monk), or they have heard stuff about Filipinos faking being mixed.

[CrinjaNinja]

Burmese

Burmese are more Caucasoid than Filipinos genetically. Filipinos only have large eyes and no epicanthic folds because of Australoid admixture, which is also present as a really small amount in Burmese, as well as one of its relatives, the Bangladeshis.

[KuakoVoice]

Burmese are more Caucasoid than Filipinos genetically. Filipinos only have large eyes and no epicanthic folds because of Australoid admixture, which is also present as a really small amount in Burmese, as well as one of its relatives, the Bangladeshis.

I think that's more an Indigineous Austronesian trait.Majority of Filipinos have little Australoid too,and the Aeta arent exactly fully Australoid either.

[GaneshD'Souza]

I think that's more an Indigineous Austronesian trait.Majority of Filipinos have little Australoid too,and the Aeta arent exactly fully Australoid either.

We really can't get an accurate idea of Australoid admixture because there has been very little testing of Filipinos in the Philippines. Some studies did include Negrito and Papuan admixture, but the numbers I saw for their sample were like 20 Tagalogs, 20 Visayans, and several other tribes all with small sample sizes. I think this chart also used that same study



And according to this, Visayans and Tagalogs have around half as much Australoid admixture as Polynesians. So if Polynesians are supposedly 25% Australoid, then Visayans and Tagalogs are 10-15%- which is still significant. Ayta, Agta, Ati, and Mamanwa are all Negrito tribes, some are more mixed than other. Iraya and Manobo are non-Negrito tribes. They resemble what poorer Filipinos look like whether tribal or not. So I suspect that a large percentage of the population is as Australoid-mixed as Manobos and Irayas. But we need more testing in the Philippines.

[Maguzanci]

I think that's more an Indigineous Austronesian trait.Majority of Filipinos have little Australoid too,and the Aeta arent exactly fully Australoid either.

I have run some Aeta and Agta results and I was surprised to found out that that more than half of their genes are Mongoloid Austronesian admixed.

[Maguzanci]

I find that people often doubt me that I'm mixed. Usually, it's because of either of these reasons (or even both of them): the first pic they saw of me showed me squinting, and first impressions of one's appearance normally last (I have bulging eyes in person, and I changed my avatar because it shows me in all my bulge-eyed glory. My bio was really awkward with my old avatar next to it because it made me look like a Buddhist monk), or they have heard stuff about Filipinos faking being mixed.

Have you ever done a DNA test yet like 23andme, AncestryDNA or Gedmatch? So you can settled this issue once and for all.

[aja675]

Have you ever done a DNA test yet like 23andme, AncestryDNA or Gedmatch? So you can settled this issue once and for all.

I haven't. It's not like any of these actually ship here.