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no thats an indian dude. she's saying some burmese that she saw looked like him.Originally Posted by Kaazi
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The results are fake.
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Btw this is pretty intriguing but Burmese are genetically closer to NE Indians, Nepalis and most NE Asians than to SE Asians with the exception of Thais (im not sure if this is due to heavy Chinese mix in Thai samples or some shared recent ancestry with the Burmese), Cambodians (seem to be Chinese admixture in one of the samples that causes this), Vietnamese. Look at how far the Burmese are from Austronesians like Malay, Indonesians and Flippinos for example.
And its a bit strange that the Malays are a lot closer the Burmese than other Austronesians are. Chinese admix in some Malay samples as well?
Distance to: Burmese
0.02182748 Tripuri
0.02498988 Jamatia
0.07142807 Magar
0.07430143 Gurung
0.07433122 Tamang
0.07595931 Thai
0.09489489 Naxi
0.09775700 Tibetan_Xinlong
0.09872883 Sherpa
0.10371016 Cambodian
0.11080127 Kinh_Vietnam
0.11385934 Tibetan_Chamdo
0.11556839 Kusunda
0.11694541 Han_Shanxi
0.11917641 Han_Fujian
0.12009631 Han_Hubei
0.12145800 Dai
0.12498928 Mongola
0.12896183 Malay
0.13960043 Korean
0.14000860 Tharu
0.14688577 Japanese
0.15428162 Vizayan
0.15642756 Indonesian_Bali
0.16002150 Indonesian_Java
0.16632149 Aeta
0.17022379 Luzon
0.17217595 Newar
0.17515597 Atayal
0.19161815 Murut (a tribal Austronesian group from Borneo)
0.20109574 Igorot
0.22347638 Onge
0.23029052 Bonda
0.33849483 Bengali_Bangladesh
So I decided to use the individual samples for Thais, Cambodians, Malays instead to see whether the distance of them to Burmese will change.
Spoiler!
Thais are still closer to Burmese even compared to some Nepalis or NE Asians. Maybe some shared ancestry between Burmese and Thais?
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Lol. If that's the case how did David ever uploaded or he is just ignorant in Asian genetics?
I will try to run some individual samples of these groups to see if they still receive Bedouin over South Asian.
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So I decided to run the individual Balinese and Javanese Indonesian samples to see if anything changes. Here they are:
And here is the Vizayan and Luzon Flip individuals (unfortunately, there is only one sample for each Philippine group):
Distance: 1.9429% / 0.01942887
Target: Vizayan:GS000019970
62.9 Ami
30.5 Aeta
5.1 Mlabri
0.8 Iranian_Fars
0.7 BedouinB
Distance: 1.8033% / 0.01803322
Target: Luzon:GS000019968
86.4 Ami
8.5 Aeta
2.6 Onge
2.0 Mlabri
0.5 Brahmin_Tamil_Nadu
I think the Mlabri is absorbing some West Eurasian admix of the Indonesian and Vizayan samples.
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Who cares about ancient ancestry. We're not living in the BC anymore. 23andme picks up more recent ancestry, and Filipinos are the most recently mixed, which is why our 23andme results are so diverse compared to other Asians. I've never seen Burmese 23andme results. They may be more diverse. But compare to Vietnam, Indonesians, Cambodians, and Thais, Filipinos have the most diverse 23andme results. But it's usually just small amounts o f ancestry because the Philippines was more diverse in the 1800s than it is now.How does it feel to know that Filipinos have one of the lowest Caucasoid and are one of the most Mongoloid SE Asians (the only groups that are less Caucasoid than you are Vietnamese, Laotians, some tribal SE Asians and Eastern Indos/Timorese )?
In fact Filipinos have one of the most boring and dull DNA results that I ever saw for SE Asians thanks to your almost none to literally zero Caucasoid/Euro rofl.
Burmese, Thais, Cambodians, Malays, a lot of Indonesians, all of them have higher Caucasoid than Pinoys do. Flips can only compete with Viets, Laotians, tribal ethnic minorities and Eastern Indos/Timorese in your almost lack of to even zero West Eurasian/Caucasoid.
Oh and don't use those 23andme to compare. Their SE Asian categories are absolute shit it absorbs the high South Asian that most SE Asians have (Pinoys have very little South Asian compared to their neighbors) make them look almost 100% Mongoloid when its far from the truth.
You can keep imagining about those legendary Spanish ancestors all you want, but that doesn't make you more Euro/Caucasoid.
And how many Filipinos have they even tested? And what regions? Filipinos with the most Indian/Arab will be from the Southern Philippines- the Moros. I don't even know if they test Moros. Moros are extremely rare in the diaspora population. You see Moros all over the place in the Philippines, but I've actually never met a Moro outside of the Philippines in my life.
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Lol a lot of people seem to care including Latinos. Why do you think they all uploaded their 23andme results to Gedmatch and other DNA testing to learn more about their DNA? And no its exactly ancient ancestry. Even a lot of Latinos who are a newly created and mixed population, uploaded to their 23andme results to Gedmatch to get a better look at their DNA lmao.
Ok I will give you a benefit of doubt that they might not test all Pinoys or most regions. And that's doesn't change the fact that Flips have one of the lowest Caucasoid among SE Asians out there after Vietnamese, Laotians and some tribal groups. Still, most Philipinos on 23andme and other DNA tests have only 1-5% Cauacsoid, and there seems to be those who are 1-3% Euro than those who are 4-5% Euro. Heck, even those who are more than 5% Euro seems to be a minority and those who are up to 10% Caucasoid or more seems to be in the rare atypical range of Filipinos.
Having 0.5% Euro, 0.1% SSA and 0.1% Native American that a lot of Flips while other SE Asians don't have, doesn't make them the most diverse lol. Those amounts which are less than 1% like 0.3% Euro, 0.2% MENA, 0.4% Native means noise level which means the ancestry might not even be real and its something 23andme algorithm just do to fit the results as much they can. For those ancestry among Filipinos to be real, they must have at least 1% or more. So yeah those diverse results, could be noise if its less than 1%.
And I have seen two Moro results on Gedmatch (not on 23andme) and they are almost the same as other Pinoys. Their results might be different from other Pinos but that's it.
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You forgot about the Central/South Asian. I've only seen a few Filipinos who don't have it on 23andme. I think it's more recent admixture. I only have a little South Asian on 23andme but I have full Indian relatives on 23andme who match me on my South Asian segments. They're 4th cousins. So our Indian admixture is recent, and that's why it shows up on 23andme. Cambodians also have a good amount, Thais usually too. Vietnamese, no. Indonesians, surprisingly not much. I think Achenese would have a lot of Indian and Arab, but the majority of the population are Sundanese and Javanese
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You are wrong because Viets also do score minor South Asian. And Indonesians including Javanese, Sundanese do have a good amount South Asian. Even if Indos don't have as much, its still more than most Philipinos. You should stop treating 23andme as a gospel. Pinoys score similar amounts of South Asian as Viets and Laotians or maybe a bit more.
Here is the PuntDNAL K13 calculator spreadsheet that show much the average SE Asian score in their DNA result. Its from Gedmatch, its much more reliable and accurate in telling how much South Asian you have than 23andme. Look at how very little South Asian Pinoys have from around 0-6%, even Viets have a bit more than Filipinos at 7%. While look at other SE Asians, it ranges from 11 to almost 17%.
Here is the MDLP K16 Modern calculator spreadsheet that show how much the average SE Asian ethnicity score. Once again the Filipinos are scoring the lowest Indian among the SE Asians along with the three Vietnamese samples (from North, Central and South part of Vietnam). There are no Malays or other Indonesians here, but look at how all the other SE Asians all score form 13-17% Indian.
How will you refute this? The low South Asian that Flips in these calcs definitely cannot be explained by the recent South Asian admixture. Look at how little Caucasoid Pinoys have compared to other SE Asians.
Here are individual SE Asian results using PuntDNAL K13:
Filipina
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 60.81
2 NE_Asia 26.77
3 South_Asia 5.91
4 Oceania 4.06
5 SW_Europe 0.77
6 South_Africa 0.69
7 NE_Europe 0.51
8 SW_Asia 0.47
Indonesian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 48.97
2 NE_Asia 23.23
3 South_Asia 16.39
4 West_Asia 3.56
5 NE_Europe 2.6
6 Oceania 2.53
7 SW_Asia 0.88
8 Americas 0.74
9 South_Africa 0.58
10 East_Africa 0.26
11 SW_Europe 0.25
12 West_Africa 0.01
Malay
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 41.77
2 NE_Asia 23.6
3 South_Asia 18.08
4 Oceania 5.17
5 West_Asia 5.13
6 NE_Europe 2.19
7 SW_Europe 1.51
8 Americas 0.86
9 Siberia 0.84
10 West_Africa 0.48
11 East_Africa 0.35
12 South_Africa 0.01
Cambodian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 39.37
2 NE_Asia 33.72
3 South_Asia 16.54
4 West_Asia 3.43
5 Oceania 2.72
6 NE_Europe 1.34
7 West_Africa 1.27
8 SW_Europe 0.87
9 SW_Asia 0.63
10 South_Africa 0.11
Thai
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 33.97
2 NE_Asia 33.21
3 South_Asia 18.21
4 West_Asia 4.77
5 Oceania 2.55
6 NE_Europe 2.37
7 SW_Asia 1.86
8 East_Africa 1.14
9 Americas 0.92
10 Siberia 0.72
11 West_Africa 0.27
Burmese:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Asia 45.98
2 SE_Asia 19.89
3 South_Asia 16.88
4 West_Asia 7.63
5 Siberia 2.85
6 SW_Europe 2.65
7 Oceania 2.22
8 SW_Asia 0.91
9 Americas 0.83
10 East_Africa 0.1
11 South_Africa 0.05
12 NE_Europe 0.02
Vietnamese
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Asia 55.03
2 SE_Asia 35.49
3 South_Asia 4.88
4 Americas 1.19
5 Siberia 0.95
6 SW_Asia 0.94
7 West_Asia 0.59
8 Oceania 0.53
9 West_Africa 0.4
The Filipina have the second lowest South Asian after the Vietnamese while the others all have at least 16% South Asian.
Some more Philipinos: very little South Asian
Pinoy 2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 56.84
2 NE_Asia 30.01
3 South_Asia 4.88
4 Oceania 3.44
5 NE_Europe 2.62
6 Siberia 1.34
7 East_Africa 0.65
8 SW_Europe 0.12
9 SW_Asia 0.09
Pinoy 3
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 58.28
2 NE_Asia 29.91
3 South_Asia 4
4 Oceania 2.8
5 Americas 1.4
6 SW_Asia 1.31
7 NE_Europe 1.14
8 South_Africa 0.65
9 East_Africa 0.5
Indonesian 2:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 46.44
2 NE_Asia 21.93
3 South_Asia 19.01
4 West_Asia 4.82
5 Oceania 4.29
6 NE_Europe 2.2
7 SW_Asia 0.68
8 SW_Europe 0.36
9 South_Africa 0.28
Malay 2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 40.67
2 NE_Asia 28.66
3 South_Asia 17.02
4 Oceania 3.73
5 SW_Europe 2.74
6 West_Asia 2.65
7 NE_Europe 1.7
8 SW_Asia 1.1
9 South_Africa 0.86
10 East_Africa 0.51
11 Americas 0.35
Cambodian 2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 38.86
2 NE_Asia 33.17
3 South_Asia 15.98
4 West_Asia 3.72
5 Oceania 3.2
6 SW_Europe 2.73
7 East_Africa 0.84
8 NE_Europe 0.76
9 Americas 0.51
10 SW_Asia 0.23
Thai 2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 SE_Asia 32.24
2 NE_Asia 29.89
3 South_Asia 20.48
4 West_Asia 4.53
5 Oceania 2.89
6 SW_Europe 2.82
7 SW_Asia 2.76
8 West_Africa 2.5
9 Siberia 1.22
10 South_Africa 0.46
11 Americas 0.2
12 NE_Europe 0.01
Burmese 2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Asia 39.68
2 South_Asia 19.53
3 SE_Asia 19.06
4 Siberia 7.27
5 West_Asia 5.56
6 NE_Europe 4.11
7 Oceania 2.68
8 South_Africa 1.43
9 SW_Asia 0.36
10 Americas 0.31
Vietnamese 2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 NE_Asia 52.31
2 SE_Asia 39.63
3 South_Asia 4.54
4 West_Africa 1
5 Oceania 0.66
6 NE_Europe 0.63
7 West_Asia 0.53
8 East_Africa 0.36
9 SW_Europe 0.33
10 South_Africa 0.01
Look at how the Flips have similar amounts of South Asian as the Viets. I can post countless results of Pinos more and none would score 10% or more except some very atypical genetic outliers while other SE Asians can easily have at least 15% South Asian. Many Indonesians do have lower South Asian at like 10% but it still higher than most Pinoys.
Furthermore, look at how very little Caucasoid the Filipino results score compared to other SE Asians. I can post loads of SE Asians who score much more Caucasoid than most Flips.
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Do you want to have the kits of three Thai individuals who have higher than 14% SI?
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