Burmese or Filipinos: who is more Caucasoid?

**Thambi** · 11-27-2020, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Maguzanci

Do you want to have the kits of three Thai individuals who have higher than 14% SI?

yes please. that'd be great.

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 11-27-2020, 04:36 AM

Originally Posted by Thambi

yes please. that'd be great.

I will give it to you in reputation comments because my PM is full.

Btw GaneshDSouza cannot refute my reply to him regarding the usage of Gedmatch instead of 23andme lol.

**KuakoVoice** · 12-03-2020, 01:00 AM

Originally Posted by GaneshD'Souza

You forgot about the Central/South Asian. I've only seen a few Filipinos who don't have it on 23andme. I think it's more recent admixture. I only have a little South Asian on 23andme but I have full Indian relatives on 23andme who match me on my South Asian segments. They're 4th cousins. So our Indian admixture is recent, and that's why it shows up on 23andme. Cambodians also have a good amount, Thais usually too. Vietnamese, no. Indonesians, surprisingly not much. I think Achenese would have a lot of Indian and Arab, but the majority of the population are Sundanese and Javanese

Actually the Javanese population share of Indonesia is probably decreasing rather than increasing,because of more inter tribal and inter ethnic migrations of them,Government enforced transmigrations,and most of the Population control stuff is centered for them.I think last time I checked they were more like 50 percent of the population right now.

Its funny to me that Ancestry now has a Southern Phillipines and Northern Phillipines as seperate categories,yet Indonesian is one category and including everything from Sumatra to West Papua.There is a far huger difference between Sumatra to West Papua,than Luzon to Mindanao for instance.In fact East Timor itself is now placed under "Melanesia" in Ancestry,yet their Melanesian neighbors in West Papua,Maluku,and NTT are placed under "Indonesian".The funniest thing about that is almost all Eastern Indonesians even east of Sulawesi actually score very little "Indonesian" on Ancestry,so it's only a matter of time and a matter of more Wallaceans/West Papuans testing for us to have our own category or places under "Melanesia" with our Timorese and Papua New Guinean brothers.

**KuakoVoice** · 12-03-2020, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by GaneshD'Souza

Who cares about ancient ancestry. We're not living in the BC anymore. 23andme picks up more recent ancestry, and Filipinos are the most recently mixed, which is why our 23andme results are so diverse compared to other Asians. I've never seen Burmese 23andme results. They may be more diverse. But compare to Vietnam, Indonesians, Cambodians, and Thais, Filipinos have the most diverse 23andme results. But it's usually just small amounts o f ancestry because the Philippines was more diverse in the 1800s than it is now.

And how many Filipinos have they even tested? And what regions? Filipinos with the most Indian/Arab will be from the Southern Philippines- the Moros. I don't even know if they test Moros. Moros are extremely rare in the diaspora population. You see Moros all over the place in the Philippines, but I've actually never met a Moro outside of the Philippines in my life.

Lmao.You wished The Phillipines was more diverse than "Indonesians".Maluku alone is far more diverse than the entire Phillipines,so is East Timor and West Papua and Nusa Tengarra.Ignoring our existence for your convenience doesnt take our existence away.Just compare pictures of crowds of Timorese,Ambonese,or West Papuans then compare to Filipinos.And then multiply by the fact that we have 1/20 of your population and land area.Yet the most linguistically diverse region of Southeast Asia as well is...Eastern Indonesia! (West Papua,Maluku,and Nusa Tengarra).We have languages that arent even Austronesian and many not even classifiable at all.Even Filipinos Negritos still speak Austronesian languages.��

**KuakoVoice** · 12-03-2020, 01:59 AM

I think based on the DNA tests of Timorese and Moluccan I seen that we have the least South Asian in our region,but I cant agree with the least European.We were some of the first Christian converts outside of Europe and the Near East and the Capítol city of Maluku,Ambon was literally started by Western European traders.That along with the infamous Spice Trade being centered in Maluku would beg to differ.

**~~Maguzanci~~** · 12-03-2020, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by KuakoVoice

I think based on the DNA tests of Timorese and Moluccan I seen that we have the least South Asian in our region,but I cant agree with the least European.We were some of the first Christian converts outside of Europe and the Near East and the Capítol city of Maluku,Amnon was literalitat started by Western European traders.That along with the infamous Spice Trade being centered in Maluku would beg to differ.

From Gedmatch kits of Timorese and Moluccans that you have, do most have European and how much do they have on average?

Can you share some kits?

**Leto** · 12-03-2020, 11:46 AM

I believe there was a sizeable Eurasian minority in the Philippines but there was also some Anglo-Burmese biracials too. However mixed Filipino Americans and people like Enrique Iglesias are a lot more prominent.