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    Default Tibetan /Tibetid cluster gedmatch scores

    Gedmatch thread for Tibetans or Tibetan speakers/ Tibetan descended or predominantly Tibetan people. It could include Nepali Tibetids, or East/ North Indian/Pakistani/Afghan Tibetids or Bhutanese or any other Tibetan clusters from China/Myanmar.

    Tibetans and Tibetan speakers from Nepal are mostly Yellow River Farmer with a lil Austro-Asiatic and ENA or AASI shifted IVC admix; they don't seem to have admixture from middle caste or upper caste South Asians. The most South Asian shifted Tibetids also has tribal/lowcaste such as Gond like South Asian admix which I'll post below. So, I think the South Asian admixture in some of them is not modern day admixture. I think the Siberian component here is not actual Siberian admix since in the G25 modeling, they don't pick anything other than Yellow River and lil Austro-Asiatic.

    Tibetans
    Kit MT1039228 Geleg
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 74.28
    2 Siberian 13.16
    3 S-Indian 6.33
    4 SE-Asian 3.04
    5 American 1.02
    6 Beringian 0.73
    7 SW-Asian 0.41
    8 NE-Euro 0.36
    9 Papuan 0.24
    10 Baloch 0.23
    11 San 0.13
    12 W-African 0.07

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    Kit M563780 Tsepel
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 71.95
    2 Siberian 11.42
    3 S-Indian 8.96
    4 Beringian 2
    5 Papuan 1.84
    6 American 1.83
    7 Baloch 0.88
    8 Pygmy 0.44
    9 Caucasian 0.36
    10 San 0.32

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    Nepalese Tibetids
    Kit JH7355083 Sherpa (Eastern Nepali)
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 74.55
    2 Siberian 11.44
    3 S-Indian 7.7
    4 Papuan 1.99
    5 Beringian 1.45
    6 Baloch 0.9
    7 Caucasian 0.73
    8 SE-Asian 0.69
    9 American 0.29
    10 E-African 0.26

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    Tamang (Central Nepali)
    From G25, some Magars and Tamangs are the highest South Asian shifted Tibetids. This quarter South Asian admixed Tibetid has Gond, Sahariya like admix which is clearly tribal/low caste admix. Has very low Neolithic Iranian ratio (Baloch+Caucasian).
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 55.67
    2 S-Indian 21.11
    3 Siberian 8.16
    4 Baloch 5.16
    5 SE-Asian 4.42
    6 Papuan 1.66
    7 American 1.26
    8 Mediterranean 0.95
    9 Caucasian 0.72
    10 NE-Euro 0.63
    11 Beringian 0.2
    12 E-African 0.07

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    Northeast Indians/Bhutanese
    Kit A012178 Dorji - Looks like Sikkimese/Bhutanese.
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 73.71
    2 Siberian 10.58
    3 S-Indian 8.39
    4 SE-Asian 3.38
    5 Papuan 1.62
    6 Baloch 1.22
    7 American 0.69
    8 Beringian 0.18
    9 E-African 0.18
    10 NE-Euro 0.05

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    Kit M312712 Naga (Northeast Indian) omg the "NE-Asian" score deadend
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 84.58
    2 Siberian 7.96
    3 S-Indian 4.32
    4 Papuan 1.69
    5 SE-Asian 1.28
    6 American 0.16

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    I have not seen any Nepali Magars, Baltis, Ladakhis, Uttarakhand-Himachal Bhotiya results. Any addition of such results would be interesting.

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    HOLLYYY. how did you find a naga kit?? damnnn. nice job bro.

    even tibetans are kinda hard to find. ive mostly just come across nepali mongoloid kits.

    but yeah the naga kit seems to match the naga average on harappa very well. Its weird to see they score less south asian than tibetans from tibet though lol. it makes sense given the history but still interesting.

    highest NE asian i've seen was 79% on a northeast chinese from liaoning before. This naga tops that kit by 5%. Nagas are the ultimate pure northeast asians then lol.
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    Tibetan - from lhasa/kyirong
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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 NE-Asian 66.85
    2 Siberian 13.03
    3 S-Indian 9.16
    4 Baloch 2.61
    5 Papuan 2.6
    6 W-African 1.35
    7 NE-Euro 1.28
    8 E-African 1.12
    9 Caucasian 0.87
    10 American 0.55
    11 Beringian 0.52
    12 SW-Asian 0.03
    13 SE-Asian 0.02

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thambi View Post
    HOLLYYY. how did you find a naga kit?? damnnn. nice job bro.

    even tibetans are kinda hard to find. ive mostly just come across nepali mongoloid kits.

    but yeah the naga kit seems to match the naga average on harappa very well. Its weird to see they score less south asian than tibetans from tibet though lol. it makes sense given the history but still interesting.

    highest NE asian i've seen was 79% on a northeast chinese from liaoning before. This naga tops that kit by 5%. Nagas are the ultimate pure northeast asians then lol.
    The Naga kit appeared in some Tibetan matches. Yeah, Nagas appear to break this calculator lol. Based on G25, some of the contenders of the most unadmixed/pure Yellow River folks were Qiangs, some North Hans and some Tibetans. If samples from Sikkim, Bhutan, Naga and Nysha tribes would appear in G25, we would know the most unadmixed/pure Yellow River farmer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaazi View Post
    Based on G25, some of the contenders of the most unadmixed/pure Yellow River folks were Qiangs, some North Hans and some Tibetans. If samples from Sikkim, Bhutan, Naga and Nysha tribes would appear in G25, we would know the most unadmixed/pure Yellow River farmer.
    But the river is in the middle of China. Shouldn't the Han be the purest ones? I believe the Han are virtually 100% East Asian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    But the river is in the middle of China. Shouldn't the Han be the purest ones? I believe the Han are virtually 100% East Asian.
    Yeah, you can see some Northern Hans from the Yellow River valley such as Shanxi and Henan in my G25 modeling have only 4% Austronesian Hanben admix. So, it's almost pure East Asian but I have not seen their kits. If they don't score very high NE-Asian, it could be calculator limitation.

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    The Indian Nagas seem to have the highest levels of NE-Asian as a group in gedmatch calcs. Their G25 would be interesting.

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    Sample NE-Asian Siberian S-Indian Papuan SE-Asian Beringian American
    Indian Naga ► NAG131 84.94 8.33 3.84 1.82 1.06 0 0
    Indian Naga ► NAG134 83.44 6.53 5.98 1.39 2.15 0.51 0
    Indian Naga ► NAG129 82.3 6.67 5.18 1.52 4.34 0 0
    Indian Naga ► NAG133 81.02 9.11 3.33 1.96 3.93 0.35 0.29

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    Tibetan Chamdo

    Sample NE-Asian Siberian S-Indian Papuan Beringian Caucasian SW-Asian San NE-Euro SE-Asian American Baloch Mediterranean E-African
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T274 79.97 10.64 5.14 1.72 1.02 0.86 0.54 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T247 78.99 11.29 7.87 1.09 0 0 0.41 0 0 0.34 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T74 78.42 13.3 6.58 1.14 0.55 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T283 77.91 12.28 5.43 1.07 0.81 0.93 0 0.28 0 1.22 0 0 0.06 0.01
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T273 77.66 11.04 4.87 1.29 1 0.95 0 0 0.59 1 1.23 0.37 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T194 77.64 12.58 4.5 2.21 0.05 0 0 0 0 2.49 0.17 0 0.36 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T173 77.58 12.49 6.64 1.28 1.84 0 0 0.17 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T144 77.42 12.55 5.38 1.91 0.84 0.9 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T196 77.41 11.23 2.95 2.17 2.98 0 0.2 0 0.31 2.7 0.05 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T141 77.15 13.56 5.97 1.09 0.36 0 0 0 0.75 0.71 0.43 0 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T363 76.26 13.59 5.8 1.66 0.51 0 0 0 0.59 0 0.13 1.14 0.34 0 0
    Tibetan Chamdo ► T282 74.92 12.8 6.2 1.98 0.08 1.78 0 0 0 0.52 1.24 0 0.36 0.09

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    Tibetans from Shigatse near Nepal border

    Sample NE-Asian Siberian S-Indian Papuan American SE-Asian Beringian Baloch SW-Asian E-African Caucasian Pygmy San NE-Euro Mediterranean
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T80 76.18 9.64 8.28 2.12 1.14 0.79 0.61 0.54 0.51 0.18 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T22 75.08 11.71 7.02 2.03 1.18 1.29 0 0.37 0 0 1.31 0 0 0.02 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T215 74.7 12.3 7.44 1.83 0 0.92 0.98 1.05 0 0 0.6 0 0 0.17 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T78 73.82 13.79 6.04 2.86 0.65 0.59 0.04 1.21 0.3 0 0.54 0 0.14 0 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T297 73.5 13.54 6.5 2.56 0.62 0.84 0.34 2.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T192 72.68 11.49 7.06 1.17 0.28 2.99 1.89 0.45 0 0.35 0 0 0 1.65 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T291 72 13.81 7.63 1.68 0.78 1.95 0 1.37 0 0.78 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T77 71.92 11.31 8.33 1.79 1.31 1.15 1.29 1.41 0 0 0 0 0 1.51 0
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T41 71.48 13.53 8.11 2.32 2.11 1.16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.03 0.61 0.66
    Tibetan Shigatse ► T189 70.2 13.41 9.19 2.24 0.3 3.58 0.13 0.31 0.01 0 0.51 0.11 0 0 0

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    Tibetans from capital Lhasa

    Sample NE-Asian Siberian S-Indian Beringian Papuan Baloch Caucasian Mediterranean SE-Asian American San NE-Euro SW-Asian
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T76 77.64 11.21 5.71 1.99 1.19 1.06 0.84 0.35 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T185 76.47 11.76 8.34 0 1 1.03 0.49 0 0.19 0.72 0 0 0
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T165 76.21 11.3 8.11 1.41 0.88 0 2.09 0 0 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T183 75.43 13.04 5.6 0 1.19 0.96 2.13 0.22 1.42 0 0 0 0
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T170 74.34 10.81 7.79 1.06 2.38 0 0 0.2 1.1 0.28 0.09 0.44 1.52
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T181 73.78 12.24 6.93 0.71 1.36 0.44 0 0 1.56 1.18 0 1.8 0
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T125 73.78 11.24 7.14 2.92 1.88 1.66 0 0 0.52 0.38 0 0 0.49
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T21 73.23 12.73 7.44 1.39 1.41 0.32 0 0 2.1 1.26 0.12 0 0
    Tibetan Lhasa ► T18 72.45 12.74 6.11 0 1.3 0.83 0.51 0 4.32 0.17 0 0 1.56

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