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    I often wonder about this. I think the main reason is because they don't believe in God and hence don't fear God... think nobody will ever find out what the real truth is about things. But fortunately for the good and honest people who are often their victims, no secret will be kept that won't be revealed. God knows deep, inner intentions of the heart and they won't escape judgment.


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    When It comes to politicians we should take their promises like a grain of salt, the money Is a devilish thing so they might go for their own political self Interest/benefits.

    All perverted temptations, so we are paying for a lot of things because of Eva and Adam were disobedient, the whole world Is corrupted.

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    When the bourgeoisie overthrew the feudal system they replaced the church with other civil institutions of the state ultimately so unfortunately Loki there is no turning back the clock at least according to Marxism. I do agree in times past religion was a reason for people being more moral but the bourgeoisie overthrew the old order and promoted agnosticism or atheism with their enlightenment movement or whatever bourgeoisie intellectual mental masturbation the bourgeoisie do to try to convince themselves they are so smart and wonderful etc...


    Most people on the left believe Capitalism and it's institutions can be reformed they are not revolutionary marxists. Republicans don't think there is anything wrong with Capitalism at all it seems. The capitalist class generates a thick fog of deception that conceals the source of societal problems and possible solutions.The truth is the capitalist class causes many societal and environmental problems Since, both Republicans and Democrats ultimately support the neoliberal capitalist elites all politicians are by necessity dishonest.


    In the most elementary sense , the State is a guarantor of the conditions, the social relations, of capitalism, and the protector of the ever more unequal distrubution of property which this system brings about-- Harry Braverman


    The capitalist class would have use believe that the state is the government and because people elect the government that state serves society as a whole. You are told that if you object about how things are you can vote for a different regime or government. However, there is little to no difference in republicans and democrats in that the state is more than the government it is a network of institutions that the capitalist class in power. Electing diferent people or political parties does not change the nature of the state.

    lack of clarify regarding the nature and the purpose of the State lead many to believe the insitutions can be redirected to serve the majority instead of the elite. However, efforts to do so consistently lead to defeat.--Vincent Navarro

    I think maybe Democrats 'lie' because they think they know better and can reform the state but can't tell too much of the truth because that would be revolutionary or cause revolution and republicans lie because well they think capitalism is just fine and dandy and that is what politicians do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesBond007 View Post
    When the bourgeoisie overthrew the feudal system they replaced the church with other civil institutions of the state ultimately so unfortunately Loki there is no turning back the clock at least according to Marxism. I do agree in times past religion was a reason for people being more moral but the bourgeoisie overthrew the old order and promoted agnosticism or atheism with their enlightenment movement or whatever bourgeoisie intellectual mental masturbation the bourgeoisie do to try to convince themselves they are so smart and wonderful etc...


    Most people on the left believe Capitalism and it's institutions can be reformed they are not revolutionary marxists. Republicans don't think there is anything wrong with Capitalism at all it seems. The capitalist class generates a thick fog of deception that conceals the source of societal problems and possible solutions.The truth is the capitalist class causes many societal and environmental problems Since, both Republicans and Democrats ultimately support the neoliberal capitalist elites all politicians are by necessity dishonest.


    In the most elementary sense , the State is a guarantor of the conditions, the social relations, of capitalism, and the protector of the ever more unequal distrubution of property which this system brings about-- Harry Braverman


    The capitalist class would have use believe that the state is the government and because people elect the government that state serves society as a whole. You are told that if you object about how things are you can vote for a different regime or government. However, there is little to no difference in republicans and democrats in that the state is more than the government it is a network of institutions that the capitalist class in power. Electing diferent people or political parties does not change the nature of the state.

    lack of clarify regarding the nature and the purpose of the State lead many to believe the insitutions can be redirected to serve the majority instead of the elite. However, efforts to do so consistently lead to defeat.--Vincent Navarro

    I think maybe Democrats 'lie' because they think they know better and can reform the state but can't tell too much of the truth because that would be revolutionary or cause revolution and republicans lie because well they think capitalism is just fine and dandy and that is what politicians do.
    Well I disagree that there is no turning back the clock. Of course there is. Christian countries have been in worse dilemmas in history and recovered. For example Christian Russia was completely secularised and religion suppressed for almost a century. But today? The Russian Orthodox Church is stronger and more influential than ever. The communists lost!

    All that is needed is a brave leadership willing and brave enough to go medieval on the enemies of God. Throw them in the oubliette. In historical battles the generals dealt with rebellion by killing every man, woman and child, so that there would be no successors to perpetuate the fight. As soon as the others see such strength and unwillingness to compromise, they fall in line and gladly submit. You even see this in Biblical stories.

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    Democrats are the party of voting yourself the money in your neighbor's pocket.

    If you are a White patriotic Christian that believes in hard work to get what you have the democrats will call you racist, greedy and dangerous.

    If you are a communist, atheist, LGBTQ person of color that has a criminal record that does not want to work for a living the democrats will promise you the world in exchange for your vote.

    Their ads say we will give you X, Y & Z and make the "evil rich" pay their fair share.

    Liberalism is a mental disorder, they need a permanent underclass to stay in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maineiac04631 View Post

    Liberalism is a mental disorder, they need a permanent underclass to stay in power.
    The topic of the scientific validity of 'mental disorder' would veer me too far off topic. I'll just say that despite psychiatry's ostensible claim to biological or genetic causes of 'mental disorders' they have never been able to prove it scientifically. Psychiatry is in fact a pseudo-science it's scientific or scientistic (scientism) sounding language conceals the fact that it is a fundamentally political project. You are proving that here. Your motivation for calling leftism a 'mental disorder' is obviously political. Psychiatry has become a tool of the neoliberal capitalist class and the capitalist class needs the 'disease model' of psychiatry because it blames the individual rather than focusing on society as the site for needed change (that is too expensive for them or so they think).

    As far as a permanent underclass capitalism causes that by tending towards monopoly or monopolistic practices.

    Karl Marx explained that class divisions arise during a specific phase in the development of human production, and when the laboring class grow large enough to form the majority of society, they can abolish those divisions. This point has now been reached. As Karl Marx predicted, What the capitalists produce, above all, are their own gravediggers.

    In the year 2018, the monetary value of all goods and services produced in the world was ten times greater than it was in the year 1950. However, most people did not enjoy a ten-fold rise in living standards, because the capitalist class claimed most of that wealth for themselves. Also, by 2017, just eight men held the same amount of wealth as the poorest half of people in the world.

    In the world around four billion people remain in poverty today, and around two billion remain hungry more than ever before in human history, and between two and four times what the U.N. would have us believe is true.

    In the year 2017, the top 1 percent took 83 percent of all the wealth created that year, with nothing going to the bottom 50 percent. That portion taken by the 1 percent could have ended extreme global poverty, seven times over.

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    Yeah pro corporation republicans really care about god and don’t lie about anything bro. All the corporatists sing amazing grace together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maineiac04631 View Post
    Liberalism is a mental disorder, they need a permanent underclass to stay in power.
    Isn’t the problem a huge underclass? I mean society can get away with some losing the game. But when MOST of the citizens are losing the game the society can’t work.

    And yeah it’s a mental disorder for poor fucks to support their interests by voting for Democrats, which they believe will give them affordable health care, housing, and unions for their work. That’s just insane and blowing my mind right now. Like how could they support such a thing?

    Them voting for democrats who are just corporatist shill-wolfs in sheep’s clothing won’t give them that shit of course. <- the fact that they believe that is the only crazy part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM78GREENSAVANNAH View Post
    Yeah pro corporation republicans really care about god and don’t lie about anything bro. All the corporatists sing amazing grace together.
    I know you are being sarcastic here but, yeah, all politicians lie whether democrat or republican whether one group lies more than the other I don't know I don't care.

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    Politicians in general are dishonest.
    Theres only few execeptions

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