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    Quote Originally Posted by MINARDOWICZ View Post
    No, outlier Iberians often look S Italian. Don't forget that Madeirans and Azoreans have SSA. They aren't exactly Germanic. LOL. It is sort of like saying that Spanish aren't white, despite outlier Brits passing as Iberian, sometimes.
    They don't have SSA, they have North Africa. They are white and light brown pure Caucasians not Indo-European.





    SSA it's mutation to black. North African has 20-30% SSA Yoruba (black caucasian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINARDOWICZ View Post
    No, outlier Iberians often look S Italian. Don't forget that Madeirans and Azoreans have SSA. They aren't exactly Germanic. LOL. It is sort of like saying that Spanish aren't white, despite outlier Brits passing as Iberian, sometimes.
    The SSA in Azoreans/Madeirans is small, not visible in the phenotype.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    The SSA in Azoreans/Madeirans is small, not visible in the phenotype.
    And Azores is probably like the Peninsula, the island is so distant of Madeira.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinus View Post
    Again: Brazilians only associate Europeaness with Nordish phenotypes
    I don't think this is true. I know some White Brazilians (who are even of predominantly colonial descent) and they are very much aware that their looks are Iberian/European.

    It's true however that phenotypes, genetics, ancestry and history are not a major thing most Brazilians are concerned with.

    (Sometimes I ask myself if average White Americans from the US are aware that their looks are European, and not 'American', lol).

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    I don' care about sicilians.. but i know that there are many VENETIANS.. TRENTINI and FRIULIANI in BRASIL..


    Bolsonaro..






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    I don' care about sicilians.. but i know that there are many VENETIANS.. TRENTINI and FRIULIANI in BRASIL..


    Bolsonaro..












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    I have Sicilian blood and I don't score North Africa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by renaissance12 View Post
    I don' care about sicilians.. but i know that there are many VENETIANS.. TRENTINI and FRIULIANI in BRASIL..


    Bolsonaro..


    Yes, Venetians were the main source of "italian europeans" to Brazil, its possible to perceive how strong is their identity compared to italians of São Paulo city for example, I think the fact that they were located very close to Slovenia, have its own language and its own history with Veneza and its important past contributes a lot to their sentiment of being different like they explain on the video.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Yes, Venetians were the main source of "italian europeans" to Brazil, its possible to perceive how strong is their identity compared to italians of São Paulo city for example, I think the fact that they were located very close to Slovenia, have its own language and its own history with Veneza and its important past contributes a lot to their sentiment of being different like they explain on the video.

    Half Slovenia had been under Venetians for hundreds years

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