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    Quote Originally Posted by PaleoEuropean View Post
    Why would they consider themselves to be anything but Europeans?
    Europeans they are (were born on the continent) a little Caucasian mix not Indo-European only. J2 were the Etruscans, people were a culturally developed who founded the Roman empire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    I hate when some people copy things that are worse than ours just because it comes from some developed country : /
    Um pouco mais e vou me considerar negro só pra ver as reações.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luso View Post
    Yes, and I’m in the med spectrum and it seems Brazilians like to say the euro “colonizers” were German white or something lol. I talked with Latinus ab this topic a while back and it’s funny to me.
    Yeah, you look very typical in Brazil.

    Euro colonizers in Brazil being German looking? What?

    Well, Oliveira Vianna said the following:
    The Brazilian government, as was commonplace at that time, endorsed positions expressed by Brazilian intellectuals and scientists. An example is a text, written by Oliveira Vianna, that was issued as introductory material to 1920 Census results. Many pages of Vianna's work were dedicated to the discussion of a "pure race" of white Brazilians. According to the text, written by Oliveira Vianna, the first Portuguese colonists who came to Brazil were part of the blond Germanic nobility that ruled Portugal, while the dark-haired "poor" Portuguese only came to Brazil later, in the 17th and especially the 18th century.

    According to Oliveira Vianna, the blond Portuguese of Germanic origin were "restless and migratory", and that's why they emigrated to Brazil. On the other hand, the Portuguese of darker complexions were of Celtic or Iberian origin and came when the Portuguese settlement in Brazil was already well established, because, according to him, "The peninsular brachyoids, of Celtic race, or the dolicoides, of Iberian race, of sedentary habits and peaceful nature, did not have, of course, that mobility nor that bellicosity nor that spirit of adventure and conquest".
    It was obvious that he endorsed Nordicist ideals/agendas.

    When I said German looking white Brazilians... I mean that Brazilians picture these types when thinking about Euros, how they look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by luc2112 View Post
    Europeans they are (were born on the continent) a little Caucasian mix not Indo-European only. J2 were the Etruscans, people were a culturally developed who founded the Roman empire.
    yea but they are still Europeans. J2 has been in Europe a lot longer than people think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos One View Post
    Um pouco mais e vou me considerar negro só pra ver as reações.
    Se um dia vc se considerar light pardo, fique preparado pra de quebra virar negro tbm.

    Vão te usar pra fazar politicagem, inflar estatísticas esdrúxulas, mas na hora de você pedir algum benefício ou cota, se você não for de esquerda e não militar, volta a ser branco opressor nazista e escravagista na hora.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tenma de Pegasus View Post
    Se um dia vc se considerar light pardo, fique preparado pra de quebra virar negro tbm.

    Vão te usar pra fazar politicagem, inflar estatísticas esdrúxulas, mas na hora de você pedir algum benefício ou cota, se você não for de esquerda e não militar, volta a ser branco opressor nazista e escravagista automaticamente.
    Na verdade eu sempre digo que pra saber se você é negro ou não de verdade, basta ver a reação de outro negro em relação a pedir cota em universidade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaos One View Post
    Na verdade eu sempre digo que pra saber se você é negro ou não de verdade, basta ver a reação de outro negro em relação a pedir cota em universidade.
    As próprias bancas de avaliação de vários concursos são super tendenciosas, já ouvi histórias de pessoas que confio que eles fazem perguntas sobre ideologia em quanto avaliam FENÓTIPO! Bizarro.

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    No, outlier Iberians often look S Italian. Don't forget that Madeirans and Azoreans have SSA. They aren't exactly Germanic. LOL. It is sort of like saying that Spanish aren't white, despite outlier Brits passing as Iberian, sometimes.

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    They're, most of the times, seen as whites.

    But there are some exceptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINARDOWICZ View Post
    No, outlier Iberians often look S Italian. Don't forget that Madeirans and Azoreans have SSA. They aren't exactly Germanic. LOL. It is sort of like saying that Spanish aren't white, despite outlier Brits passing as Iberian, sometimes.
    They don't have SSA, they have North Africa. They are white and light brown pure Caucasians not Indo-European.





    SSA it's mutation to black. North African has 20-30% SSA Yoruba (black caucasian)

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