Are Sicilians 'pardos' in Brazil?

[Cristiano viejo]

Funnily enough, there are even some mixed people/Castizos who have lighter skin than some Iberians.

And than Anglo Americans as well

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

Sorry but that's simply not true at all...
Also, I really think that some darker Iberians with skin type IV could be taken as 'morenos' in Brazil, because the country is so mixed that you often can't tell apart the different phenotypes.

Funnily enough, there are even some mixed people/Castizos who have lighter skin than some Iberians.

It is true. The phenotypes South-med and Berberid which have slight admixture with North Africans, in Europe, occur mostly in Southern Spain, and hardly any in Sicily. Obviously the admixture is not even close to enough to consider them orientalid over mediterranean but the influence is there.

[Peter Parker]

It is true. The phenotypes South-med and Berberid which have slight admixture with North Africans, in Europe, occur mostly in the Canary Islands, and hardly any in Southern Spain AND Sicily. Obviously the admixture is not even close to enough to consider them orientalid over mediterranean but the influence is there.

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[luc2112]

No. And in fact the darkest europeans are southern iberians who do in fact overlap with MENA, unlike sicilians. And even those eruopeans are considered white in brazilian society.

They would be NEMA Levantines who are light-skinned in most like southern Europeans

[luc2112]

It is true. The phenotypes South-med and Berberid which have slight admixture with North Africans, in Europe, occur mostly in Southern Spain, and hardly any in Sicily. Obviously the admixture is not even close to enough to consider them orientalid over mediterranean but the influence is there.

North-African (Haplogroup E1b1b) it's white and light brown no-indoeuropean, are Caucasians with normal noses and eyes their mixture not noticeable. E1b1b is in the Iberian Peninsula, southern Italy and the Balkans.

J2 big and low nose and big eyes its mix is noticeable

[luc2112]

Funnily enough, there are even some mixed people/Castizos who have lighter skin than some Iberians.

Yes, but there would be no Caucasian phenotype for light mestizos. Harnizo/Castizo Euro majority are close to South Europeans

[Cristiano viejo]

It is true. The phenotypes South-med and Berberid which have slight admixture with North Africans, in Europe, occur mostly in Southern Spain, and hardly any in Sicily. Obviously the admixture is not even close to enough to consider them orientalid over mediterranean but the influence is there.

Good luck finding Southern Iberians (who phenotypically are the same than Northern Iberians) like this Sicilian, who look pure Arab

[Peter Parker]

Good luck finding Southern Iberians (who phenotypically are the same than Northern Iberians) like this Sicilian, who look pure Arab

That's cherrypicking. I could show you a Spaniard who looks pure Arab as well:



However, that's just one individual.
Average Sicilians look Southern European and not that different from Greeks (a bit different from Iberians, yes).

[Cristiano viejo]

That's cherrypicking. I could show you a Spaniard who looks pure Arab as well:


However, that's just one individual.
Average Sicilians look Southern European and not that different from Greeks (a bit different from Iberians, yes).

You just have to see his results to know how Spaniards tht guy is.

The case is that there are tons of Sicilians so or even more exotic while probably that "Spaniard" is the most exotic one in all the country.

[LorenzoSpitaleri]

You just have to see his results to know how Spaniards tht guy is.

The case is that there are tons of Sicilians so or even more exotic while probably that "Spaniard" is the most exotic one in all the country.

I could say the same thing then, an arab-looking sicilian wouldn't have just "southern italian/greek" in his dna tests. Fact is there are way more arabic-looking andalusos than sicilians and you know it, you're just in denial.