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    I have seen k13 results from much of France, but I can't find kits from Normandy, which is apparently the most north shifted. Anybody have results from there, as well as a mixed mode?

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    Normands are close genetically to other french : central, north-western (except the "irish like" Breton area), Southern ; French in general.

    Normands are more close to Central French than English or Swedish.

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    Someone from Guernsey who has all French names in their tree
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    Guernsey1,50.9,20.15,16.12,5.92,2.14,0.3,3.61,0,0,0.49,0,0,0.37
    
    Distance to:	Guernsey1
    3.97509748	Southwest_English
    4.46260014	Welsh
    4.66610116	FRA_Armorica
    4.67648372	English_Southwest
    5.26463674	Irish_Leinster
    5.32766365	English
    5.43952204	English_Midlands
    5.47539040	Irish_Ulster
    5.49034607	English_Southeast
    5.57443271	English_North
    5.60099991	Irish_Munster
    5.66498897	Irish
    5.79348772	Scottish
    6.09932783	West_Scottish
    6.11767930	Irish_Connacht
    6.30175372	Orcadian
    7.75621041	Dutch
    7.78632134	Dutch_South
    7.96151996	Dutch_Central
    8.85603184	Dutch_North
    9.90886472	German_West
    10.41984165	FRA_Belgica
    10.52068914	North_German
    10.79077847	Denmark
    11.02124766	Norwegian
    
    Distance: 92.8246% / 0.92824591
    Target: Guernsey1 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    43.9	Southwest_English
    41.4	Irish_Ulster
    10.7	French_Basque
    3.4	Kol
    0.6	Welsh
    Their child, who has minor English ancestry it would seem
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    Guernsey2,49.34,23.99,15.41,5.44,0.77,0,1.87,0,0,1.04,1.34,0,0.81
    
    Distance to:	Guernsey2
    3.73192980	Welsh
    3.77263833	English_Southwest
    3.87551287	English_North
    3.98613848	English
    4.15438323	English_Midlands
    4.26281597	Orcadian
    4.28813479	Southwest_English
    4.30427694	English_Southeast
    4.41478199	Irish_Leinster
    4.54033038	FRA_Armorica
    4.89446626	Irish
    5.23424302	Irish_Munster
    5.24502622	Irish_Connacht
    5.27094868	Dutch
    5.34991589	Irish_Ulster
    5.36217307	West_Scottish
    5.37955388	Scottish
    5.41788704	Dutch_Central
    5.85936857	Dutch_North
    6.61801330	Dutch_South
    7.49515844	Denmark
    7.73675643	North_German
    7.78109247	Norwegian
    8.07126384	Norway_South_Central
    8.08896161	Sweden_Götaland
    
    Distance: 167.9315% / 1.67931487
    Target: Guernsey2 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    52.2	Welsh
    34.3	Orcadian
    7.3	Masurian
    4.4	French_Basque
    0.9	Chamar
    0.6	Papuan
    0.3	Yoruban
    Mostly Guernsey French with minor English and Breton
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    Guernsey3,46.19,20.05,17.32,7.08,5.3,1.51,1.78,0,0,0,0.41,0,0.33
    
    Distance to:	Guernsey3
    4.20706549	FRA_Armorica
    4.60354211	FRA_Belgica
    4.90154057	Dutch_South
    5.91005076	German_West
    6.06778378	English_Southeast
    6.42710666	English_Midlands
    6.51048385	English_Southwest
    6.51260317	Pennsylvania_Dutch
    6.77631906	English
    7.39687772	Swiss_German2
    7.44199570	Southwest_English
    7.45427394	FRA_Central
    7.59054017	Welsh
    7.64231640	English_North
    7.69170332	FRA_Alsace
    8.17108928	Dutch
    8.32377919	Swiss_German
    8.63291955	Irish_Leinster
    8.79880674	French
    8.91895173	Dutch_Central
    9.13219579	Orcadian
    9.23786772	German
    9.55141874	Irish
    9.64791687	Irish_Munster
    9.65094814	Scottish
    
    Distance: 81.4180% / 0.81417986
    Target: Guernsey3 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    56.1	FRA_Armorica
    15.2	Welsh
    14.1	IT_Aosta_Valley
    6.3	FRA_Belgica
    5.7	FRA_Aquitania
    2.6	Balochi

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    I wonder if these results apply to the whole region or only to smaller parts where viking settlement was more dense, like the Pays de Caux or the Cotentin peninsula. Do you know where he is from in Normandy?

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    Someone from Manche, Normandy.

    1 North_Atlantic 48.4
    2 Baltic 22.15
    3 West_Med 15.85
    4 East_Med 6.86
    5 Siberian 2.38
    6 West_Asian 2.3
    7 South_Asian 0.77
    8 Red_Sea 0.57
    9 East_Asian 0.27
    10 Northeast_African 0.19
    11 Oceanian 0.18
    12 Amerindian 0.08

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southeast_English 4.43
    2 South_Dutch 4.97
    3 Southwest_English 5.83
    4 Orcadian 6.38
    5 West_German 6.65
    6 West_Scottish 7.78
    7 North_Dutch 7.85
    8 Danish 7.98
    9 Irish 8.02
    10 North_German 8.71
    11 French 8.75
    12 Norwegian 9.94
    13 Swedish 11.42
    14 Austrian 12.95
    15 East_German 13.75
    16 Spanish_Cataluna 15.26
    17 North_Swedish 15.89
    18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.4
    19 Southwest_French 16.43
    20 Spanish_Galicia 16.75

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.7% Orcadian + 24.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.94
    2 65% Norwegian + 35% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.96
    3 75.9% Orcadian + 24.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.01
    4 74.9% Orcadian + 25.1% Portuguese @ 3.03
    5 83.6% Southeast_English + 16.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.05
    6 72.8% Orcadian + 27.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.06
    7 71.5% Danish + 28.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.07
    8 66.2% Norwegian + 33.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.07
    9 65.1% Norwegian + 34.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
    10 84.7% Southeast_English + 15.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
    11 84% Southeast_English + 16% Portuguese @ 3.07
    12 74.3% Orcadian + 25.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.09
    13 83.5% Southeast_English + 16.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.09
    14 84.8% Southeast_English + 15.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.12
    15 93.6% Southeast_English + 6.4% Sardinian @ 3.14
    16 82.7% Southeast_English + 17.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.15
    17 61.3% Norwegian + 38.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.16
    18 74.8% Orcadian + 25.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.18
    19 83.9% Southeast_English + 16.1% Southwest_French @ 3.18
    20 85.9% Southeast_English + 14.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.21

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    I assume it was a mostly male invasion hence their adoption of the French language. Those guys really were just "semen" sailing the seas, pun intended. I mean it wasn't like the Anglo-Saxon invasion, which wasn't really an invasion I guess but it sounds more badass for the English ego. A Breton chieftain married a daughter of a Saxon chieftain or some shit like that(kind of like a Trojan horse event), where hundreds of thousands of men, women and children set sail for Ape Island.

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    I guess it is the kind of result one's should expect on the coastal side of Normandy not much in the hinterland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creoda View Post
    Someone from Manche, Normandy.

    1 North_Atlantic 48.4
    2 Baltic 22.15
    3 West_Med 15.85
    4 East_Med 6.86
    5 Siberian 2.38
    6 West_Asian 2.3
    7 South_Asian 0.77
    8 Red_Sea 0.57
    9 East_Asian 0.27
    10 Northeast_African 0.19
    11 Oceanian 0.18
    12 Amerindian 0.08

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southeast_English 4.43
    2 South_Dutch 4.97
    3 Southwest_English 5.83
    4 Orcadian 6.38
    5 West_German 6.65
    6 West_Scottish 7.78
    7 North_Dutch 7.85
    8 Danish 7.98
    9 Irish 8.02
    10 North_German 8.71
    11 French 8.75
    12 Norwegian 9.94
    13 Swedish 11.42
    14 Austrian 12.95
    15 East_German 13.75
    16 Spanish_Cataluna 15.26
    17 North_Swedish 15.89
    18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 16.4
    19 Southwest_French 16.43
    20 Spanish_Galicia 16.75

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 75.7% Orcadian + 24.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.94
    2 65% Norwegian + 35% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.96
    3 75.9% Orcadian + 24.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.01
    4 74.9% Orcadian + 25.1% Portuguese @ 3.03
    5 83.6% Southeast_English + 16.4% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.05
    6 72.8% Orcadian + 27.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.06
    7 71.5% Danish + 28.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.07
    8 66.2% Norwegian + 33.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.07
    9 65.1% Norwegian + 34.9% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
    10 84.7% Southeast_English + 15.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.07
    11 84% Southeast_English + 16% Portuguese @ 3.07
    12 74.3% Orcadian + 25.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.09
    13 83.5% Southeast_English + 16.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.09
    14 84.8% Southeast_English + 15.2% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.12
    15 93.6% Southeast_English + 6.4% Sardinian @ 3.14
    16 82.7% Southeast_English + 17.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.15
    17 61.3% Norwegian + 38.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.16
    18 74.8% Orcadian + 25.2% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.18
    19 83.9% Southeast_English + 16.1% Southwest_French @ 3.18
    20 85.9% Southeast_English + 14.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.21
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dick View Post
    I assume it was a mostly male invasion hence their adoption of the French language. Those guys really were just "semen" sailing the seas, pun intended. I mean it wasn't like the Anglo-Saxon invasion, which wasn't really an invasion I guess but it sounds more badass for the English ego. A Breton chieftain married a daughter of a Saxon chieftain or some shit like that(kind of like a Trojan horse event), where hundreds of thousands of men, women and children set sail for Ape Island.
    I believe that the Hiberno Norse brought Irish women with them to the Cotentin and the Anglo Danish settlers brought Anglo Danish women with them to the Pays de Caux, (perhaps explaining the reason they are autosomally Anglo like) but it probably was male mediated in most of Normandy. Then again, I don't really know if all of Normandy is like this, or just those select few regions.

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