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    Is there are a reason why most of the Christians in this forum align with more of a cataphathic theology practices rather than apophatic, which to my understanding is actually how early Church Fathers and Jesus Christ taught their disciples? If some of you recognize yourself try to elaborate.

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    I think a Christian has a duty to display and express the attractive features of "the narrow road" to the unbeliever, if one's heart hopes that their service can present "their neighbor" with choosing a good life, long in the land.
    In the end, it's about other people, rather than "all about me."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Frent View Post
    I think a Christian has a duty to display and express the attractive features of "the narrow road" to the unbeliever, if one's heart hopes that their service can present "their neighbor" with choosing a good life, long in the land.
    In the end, it's about other people, rather than "all about me."
    Ok, but that's not what I mean. Claiming you know what God is or what God wants is what I talk about, and I'm pretty sure some folks envision God like that around here.

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    Christians are so because of guilt of their past...or fear of the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    Is there are a reason why most of the Christians in this forum align with more of a cataphathic theology practices rather than apophatic, which to my understanding is actually how early Church Fathers and Jesus Christ taught their disciples? If some of you recognize yourself try to elaborate.
    Because the Bible is very clear, whom the God is, what is his Name, purpose, feelings, personality, nature aso, and the best example of his personality was his own son, Jesus. All of this is of course in human language, because in such way we as humans can understand who the God is and how He views many things. Btw, we are created on his own image, so it is not so weird that God is described by human terms, as our perfect personality would be similar to God's, because we are his image, but, unfortunatly, fallen and imperfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Because the Bible is very clear, whom the God is, what is his Name, purpose, feelings, personality, nature aso, and the best example of his personality was his own son, Jesus. All of this is of course in human language, because in such way we as humans can understand who the God is and how He views many things. Btw, we are created on his own image, so it is not so weird that God is described by human terms, as our perfect personality would be similar to God's, because we are his image, but, unfortunatly, fallen and imperfect.
    Nope, not really. As I said check early Church Fathers and their views. I'm pretty sure they knew Bible and actual teachings better, first and foremost because they were taught by Jesus and his disciples, or at least by the disciples of the disciples. And also, from here:
    The Apostolic Fathers were Christian theologians who lived in the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, who are believed to have personally known some of the Twelve Apostles, or to have been significantly influenced by them.[7] Their writings, though popular in Early Christianity, were ultimately not included in the canon of the New Testament once it reached its final form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    Nope, not really. As I said check early Church Fathers and their views. I'm pretty sure they knew Bible and actual teachings better, first and foremost because they were taught by Jesus and his disciples, or at least by the disciples of the disciples. And also, from here:
    Some of them where open heretics, condemed even by contemporal people as well
    as later and modern Christians, so... their views are only their views, not biblical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Some of them where open heretics, condemed even by contemporal people as well
    as later and modern Christians, so... their views are only their views, not biblical.
    They are all venerated by church. Later and modern Christians opinion are irrelevant in comparison to them. Later/modern Christians can't be sure they really follow Jesus' path, thus barely important. Bible had dozen of revisions since that time. Traditional Christianity was more like a extension and generalization of Platonic thought within other spheres of our life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    They are all venerated by church.
    But it doesn't mean, that what they taught is true.

    Later and modern Christians opinion are irrelevant in comparison to them. Later/modern Christians can't be sure they really follow Jesus' path, thus barely important.
    Yes, we can, as we can read.
    Idk, what are you actually arguing for. Christianity is based
    on the Bible,Jesus and Apostles, not on the people who lived
    100-200 years after them andon their writings. Period.
    Agruing that should be differently is sensless and pointless.

    Bible had dozen of revisions since that time.
    Nope.

    was more like a extension and generalization of Platonic thought within other spheres of our life.
    And this is why they and others are not important.
    Their writings are just historical sources, with their own ideas and thoughts.
    Did they think correctly or incorrectly is irrelevant for follower of Jesus, because we follow Jesus, not Church Fathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    But it doesn't mean, that what they taught is true.



    Yes, we can, as we can read.
    Idk, what are you actually arguing for. Christianity is based
    on the Bible,Jesus and Apostles, not on the people who lived
    100-200 years after them andon their writings. Period.
    Agruing that should be differently is sensless and pointless.



    Nope.



    And this is why they and others are not important.
    Their writings are just historical sources, with their own ideas and thoughts.
    Did they think correctly or incorrectly is irrelevant for follower of Jesus, because we follow Jesus, not Church Fathers.
    It means church regard them with great respect, how is that not accepting and how can their teaching be false? They wouldn't be venerated at all if they were not in sync with original teachings. Yes, Bible had different revisions, its a known thing. New Testament alone had over 30 000 revisions. Its revised even as we speak. It means the more recent version of Bible you read the greater the chances are that its more adapted to your understanding. Example is King James Bible, clearly adapted to Medieval dwellers of England. Skepticism based on Platonism and mysticism was formed into Neo-Platonism that's essential to Christianity; might even be one of the reasons for the Great Schism.

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