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    8,26,30,31,37,41,42,43,46,56,57,59,68,75,81,84,89, 100,111,112,178,191,192,249,258,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozano View Post
    8,26,30,31,37,41,42,43,46,56,57,59,68,75,81,84,89, 100,111,112,178,191,192,249,258,
    You had the most shared picks with Celestia and stellan, who have also picked some med-like players:

    11 Celestia, 10 stellan, 9 Mixedguy17, 8 Universe, 8 RatCat, 8 RN97, 7 paradox, 7 Teutone, 7 Tacitus, 7 Parça do Neymar, 7 Immanenz, 7 Helen, 6 savvas, 6 Marmara, 6 Defcon2, 5 Stearsolina, 5 Sandis, 5 Kyp, 5 Creoda, 4 calxpal, 4 Vid Flumina, 4 Hulu, 4 Dick, 2 Óttar, 2 Komintasavalta, 0 Love Lives, 0 Edgü, 0 Dan Coren

    Your morph has dark eye color, dark skin color, and an elongated face shape. Here's you and your closest matches:



    Your picks had higher than average palpebral fissure height, facial index, and thickness of lips, but they had lower than average nasal index and distance between the nose and the mouth:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komintasavalta View Post
    You had the most shared picks with Celestia and stellan, who have also picked some med-like players:
    Again! Same matches like previous time picks

    Your analysis are really interesting. Good job

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    Earlier in this thread, I used Google's Cloud Vision API to get the coordinates of facial landmarks of each player in this thread, and I then calculated various metrics based on the landmarks. I converted the metrics into z-scores by subtracting the average and dividing by standard deviation. Next for each trait, I calculated the average z-score of the trait among the top 25 picks of each user, for which I use the term "valuation score", because it expresses how much a user values the trait. I posted the valuation scores of each user on page 8 of this thread: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...=1#post7020496.

    Now I tried using the valuation scores of each user to predict which players the user would find the most attractive. For each user, I multiplied the score of each player for each metric by the user's valuation score for the metric, and I then made a morph of the 8 players with the highest total score.

    At least in my case, the morph below ended up being fairly accurate. My morph has a high nasal index and low orbits, just like the morph of my top 25 picks. For some reason my morph looks very similar to Stearsolina's morph, even though in this thread Stearsolina wasn't even a true member of the Uralic cluster.

    Note that the morphs below don't take preferences for pigmentation into account, because the morphs are based solely on the coordinates of facial landmarks.

    Last edited by Komintasavalta; 12-18-2020 at 07:02 AM.

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    I now generated more metrics for the players in this thread based on the coordinates of facial landmarks returned by Google's Cloud Vision API.

    This time I only considered 75 out of all 270 players who had a low value of the "joyLikelihood" parameter ("VERY_UNLIKELY", "UNLIKELY", or "POSSIBLE"). I converted each metric to z-scores normed against only the players with a low "joyLikelihood" value.

    I had earlier rated the players in this thread on a 7-point scale, and I now calculated the average z-scores among players with rating 1-3 (worst) and rating 5-7 (best). Then for each trait, I subtracted the average score the of worst-rated players from the average score of best-rated players:

    (best minus worst;best;worst;metric)
    .89;.48;-.41;distance between outer points of eyebrows : distance between inner points of eyebrows
    .87;.47;-.40;distance between outer points of eyebrows : IPD
    .73;.44;-.29;distance between outer points of eyebrows : outercanthal distance
    .69;.35;-.33;distance between eyes and eyebrows : face size
    .67;.35;-.32;cheek center to eye center : middle point of eyebrow to eye center
    .66;.27;-.39;face height : IPD
    .58;.22;-.36;face width : innercanthal distance
    .56;.20;-.37;nose tip to gonion : nose tip to cheek center
    .50;.28;-.22;outer point of eyebrow to eye center : inner point of eyebrow to eye center
    .45;.22;-.23;eye center to nose bottom : IPD
    .42;.19;-.23;mouth width : IPD
    .39;.23;-.15;nose tip to nose bottom : midpoint between eyes to nose tip
    .36;.21;-.14;nose width : nose height
    .35;.18;-.17;outer point of eyebrow to eye center : IPD
    .34;.24;-.10;glabella to nose bottom : nose bottom to gnathion
    .33;.13;-.20;upper lip thickness : eye height
    .32;.19;-.13;mouth center to gnathion : face size
    .32;.23;-.09;tragion to eye : tragion to mouth
    .32;.17;-.15;nose tip to gonion : nose tip to eye center
    .32;.19;-.13;mouth center to gnathion : face height
    .29;.06;-.23;nose bottom to mouth center : glabella to nose bottom
    .28;.20;-.08;nose width : eye height
    .26;.08;-.18;upper lip thickness : face height
    .26;.17;-.09;glabella to midpoint between eyes (height) : eyebrows to eyes (height)
    .25;.16;-.09;lip thickness : face size
    .25;.08;-.17;upper lip thickness : face size
    .24;.14;-.10;mouth center to gnathion : face width
    .20;.16;-.04;nose width : face height
    .19;.20;.01;lower lip thickness : face size
    .18;.16;-.03;nose width : face width
    .18;.05;-.14;glabella to eye center : IPD
    .17;.05;-.12;cheek center to eye center : face height
    .15;.00;-.14;nose bottom to mouth center : face size
    .13;.02;-.11;cheek center to eye center : outer point of eyebrow to eye center
    .09;.15;.05;lower lip thickness : lower lip to gnathion
    .06;.03;-.03;mouth width : nose height
    .05;.06;.01;bigonial width : face width
    .03;-.11;-.14;upper lip thickness : lower lip thickness
    .03;.02;-.00;gonion to gnathion : bigonial width
    -.03;-.03;.00;face width : glabella to gnathion
    -.03;.00;.04;bigonial width : glabella to gnathion
    -.03;-.02;.01;length of inner segment of eyebrows : length of outer segment of eyebrows
    -.04;-.10;-.06;nose bottom to mouth center : mouth center to gnathion
    -.04;.06;.10;palpebral fissure width : palpebral fissure height
    -.07;.01;.09;outer point of eyebrow to center of eye : face width
    -.08;-.02;.05;eye center to inner eye corner : eye center to outer eye corner
    -.10;-.04;.06;glabella to mouth center : face width
    -.11;.03;.14;tragion to glabella : tragion to gnathion
    -.12;-.03;.09;glabella to midpoint between eyes : outer point of eyebrow to eye center
    -.13;-.04;.09;mouth width : face height
    -.14;-.12;.01;canthal tilt
    -.14;-.01;.13;palpebral fissure width : face width
    -.15;-.03;.11;mouth width : face size
    -.15;-.16;-.01;tragion to nose bottom : tragion to glabella
    -.20;.03;.23;distance between outer points of eyebrows : face width
    -.20;-.11;.09;palpebral fissure height : face size
    -.21;-.16;.05;inner point of eyebrow to inner corner of eye : IPD
    -.26;-.03;.23;glabella to midpoint between eyes : face size
    -.33;-.22;.11;glabella to eye center : glabella to midpoint between eyes
    -.38;-.20;.18;glabella to eye center : eye center to outer point of eyebrow
    -.43;-.10;.33;eye center to nose bottom : eye center to mouth center
    -.45;-.24;.22;glabella to midpoint between eyes : midpoint between eyes to nose bottom
    -.47;-.25;.22;distance between inner points of eyebrows : IPD
    -.49;-.18;.32;IPD : midpoint between eyes to center of mouth
    -.53;-.19;.33;left to right cheek center : face width
    -.57;-.28;.29;innercanthal distance : outercanthal distance
    -.76;-.39;.36;inner point of eyebrow to inner eye corner : face size
    -.81;-.32;.49;IPD : face width
    -.81;-.51;.31;glabella to eye center : glabella to outer point of eyebrow
    -.81;-.36;.45;distance between inner points of eyebrows : face width
    -.86;-.43;.43;IPD : nose width

    These metrics were the best positive predictors of attractiveness (where the morph on the left side is better):



    These metrics were the best negative predictors of attractiveness (where the morph on the right side is better):



    The conventional wisdom is that medium IPD is better than low or high IPD, but I think below average IPD looks better, at least when adjusted for a measure like face width.
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    Here are also the average z-scores of everyone's picks. I again included only the players with a low "joyLikelihood" parameter. Unlike my own scores in my previous post, the scores of everyone's picks were based only on picks for best players, so I divided my own scores by two to make them comparable to everyone's scores.

    Based on everyone's picks, the best positive predictors of attractiveness were "tragion to glabella : tragion to gnathion" and "palpebral fissure height : face size", even though my own score for both of them was slightly negative.

    Other users actually tended to value the opposite characteristics as me, so the correlation coefficient between the columns for everyone's score and my own score was -0.04.

    (everyone's score;difference of everyone's score from my score;my score;metric)
    .42;.47;-.05;tragion to glabella : tragion to gnathion
    .40;.50;-.10;palpebral fissure height : face size
    .39;.23;.16;tragion to eye : tragion to mouth
    .38;.30;.09;cheek center to eye center : face height
    .33;.28;.05;lower lip thickness : lower lip to gnathion
    .29;.07;.23;eye center to nose bottom : IPD
    .28;.35;-.07;palpebral fissure width : face width
    .28;.27;.01;gonion to gnathion : bigonial width
    .26;.32;-.07;canthal tilt
    .23;.25;-.02;nose bottom to mouth center : mouth center to gnathion
    .19;.10;.09;lower lip thickness : face size
    .14;.19;-.05;glabella to mouth center : face width
    .13;.00;.12;lip thickness : face size
    .12;.14;-.02;length of inner segment of eyebrows : length of outer segment of eyebrows
    .11;.22;-.11;inner point of eyebrow to inner corner of eye : IPD
    .11;.04;.07;cheek center to eye center : outer point of eyebrow to eye center
    .09;.47;-.38;inner point of eyebrow to inner eye corner : face size
    .09;.13;-.04;eye center to inner eye corner : eye center to outer eye corner
    .08;.30;-.23;glabella to midpoint between eyes : midpoint between eyes to nose bottom
    .08;-.25;.33;face height : IPD
    .06;.46;-.41;glabella to eye center : glabella to outer point of eyebrow
    .05;-.13;.17;outer point of eyebrow to eye center : IPD
    .05;.26;-.21;eye center to nose bottom : eye center to mouth center
    .04;-.03;.07;nose bottom to mouth center : face size
    .04;-.05;.09;glabella to eye center : IPD
    .04;-.40;.44;distance between outer points of eyebrows : distance between inner points of eyebrows
    .03;.06;-.04;outer point of eyebrow to center of eye : face width
    .03;-.31;.34;cheek center to eye center : middle point of eyebrow to eye center
    .02;-.10;.12;upper lip thickness : face size
    .02;-.12;.13;upper lip thickness : face height
    .01;-.20;.21;mouth width : IPD
    .01;.27;-.26;left to right cheek center : face width
    .01;.14;-.13;glabella to midpoint between eyes : face size
    -.01;.42;-.43;IPD : nose width
    -.01;-.45;.43;distance between outer points of eyebrows : IPD
    -.01;.05;-.06;glabella to midpoint between eyes : outer point of eyebrow to eye center
    -.02;-.27;.25;outer point of eyebrow to eye center : inner point of eyebrow to eye center
    -.02;-.31;.29;face width : innercanthal distance
    -.04;.03;-.07;mouth width : face size
    -.04;-.13;.09;nose width : face width
    -.04;-.02;-.01;face width : glabella to gnathion
    -.05;-.24;.19;nose tip to nose bottom : midpoint between eyes to nose tip
    -.05;-.34;.28;nose tip to gonion : nose tip to cheek center
    -.05;.35;-.40;IPD : face width
    -.05;.14;-.19;glabella to eye center : eye center to outer point of eyebrow
    -.06;.11;-.17;glabella to eye center : glabella to midpoint between eyes
    -.06;.01;-.07;mouth width : face height
    -.06;-.41;.34;distance between eyes and eyebrows : face size
    -.07;.03;-.10;distance between outer points of eyebrows : face width
    -.07;-.20;.13;glabella to midpoint between eyes (height) : eyebrows to eyes (height)
    -.07;.16;-.23;distance between inner points of eyebrows : IPD
    -.08;.32;-.41;distance between inner points of eyebrows : face width
    -.09;-.24;.14;nose bottom to mouth center : glabella to nose bottom
    -.09;-.19;.10;nose width : face height
    -.09;-.26;.17;glabella to nose bottom : nose bottom to gnathion
    -.14;-.12;-.02;palpebral fissure width : palpebral fissure height
    -.14;-.51;.37;distance between outer points of eyebrows : outercanthal distance
    -.14;-.16;.02;upper lip thickness : lower lip thickness
    -.16;-.33;.17;upper lip thickness : palpebral fissure height
    -.17;-.15;-.02;bigonial width : glabella to gnathion
    -.17;-.20;.03;mouth width : nose height
    -.18;-.34;.16;nose tip to gonion : nose tip to eye center
    -.21;-.23;.03;bigonial width : face width
    -.21;-.33;.12;mouth center to gnathion : face width
    -.21;.04;-.25;IPD : midpoint between eyes to center of mouth
    -.26;-.44;.18;nose width : nose height
    -.29;-.22;-.07;tragion to nose bottom : tragion to glabella
    -.31;-.02;-.28;innercanthal distance : outercanthal distance
    -.31;-.47;.16;mouth center to gnathion : face size
    -.34;-.48;.14;nose width : palpebral fissure height
    -.39;-.55;.16;mouth center to gnathion : face height

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    Here's an updated heatmap based on the z-scores of everyone's picks for 25 best players. This time I included all players and not just players with a low "joyLikelihood" value, so for example users who are shown as having a high score for mouth width might have just picked more players who were smiling.

    Me and Edgü form the tightest cluster. Stearsolina and Immanenz are also part of the same cluster with us.



    I also calculated pairwise distances between users based on the Euclidean distance of their metric z-scores. After me and Edgü, the pair of users who have the deepest blue squares are Love Lives and Dan Coren (who are two accounts of the same Romanian troll).


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