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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Katarina Kolozova, daughter of Bulgarophile
    All Macedonians are daughters or sons of Bulgarians. The sad thing is that they spit on their ancestor's graves, most of them do it unconsciously.

    Other are quite conscious, but keep the Macedonist propaganda alive among the population in order to get high positions, money, power. Like the PM Zoran Zaev or the defense minister Radmila Shekerinska.

    Radmila Shekerinska said that the monuments where Bulgarians are describes as fascists won't be removed. Yet, in 1943, her grandmother Radka ShekerinOVA requested from the Bulgarian "fashistichki" authorities pension as a widow of a Bulgarian patriot, stabbed by the Serbs 80 times.

    Yet Radmila, who is obviously named after her baba Radka, decided to build political career based on ideology, which ruined her own family.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Novi Pazar View Post
    Yes that pig Delchev is a pure Bulgarian, no doubt about it. Yes IMRO is a Bulgar creation to stab Serbs in the face, l know.
    After taking advisable medication for delusional disorders, most Serbs would stab themselves in the face after recognising how ridiculous their beliefs were. No need for creating IMRO for it.

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    IMRO was originally a liberation guerilla group to fight against the Ottomans. After they were gone the IMRO shifted its goal to incorporation of Macedonian lands back into Bulgarian rule and it was widely supported and beloved by the Macedonian population. That was until communists gained control Yugoslavia.

    Tito and the other communist gonks were worried about the IMRO and an eventual Macedonian secession which did not fit their great communist plans for a future Yugoslavia. So they launched a huge propaganda and crackdown campaign to delete even the last hint of Macedonian identity and their sympathies for Bulgaria.

    Fast forward to present day, they hate us to death, they have lost complete self-awareness to their actual roots and still live in the communist fairy tale Tito created for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    IMRO was originally a liberation guerilla group to fight against the Ottomans. After they were gone the IMRO shifted its goal to incorporation of Macedonian lands back into Bulgarian rule and it was widely supported and beloved by the Macedonian population. That was until communists gained control Yugoslavia.

    Tito and the other communist gonks were worried about the IMRO and an eventual Macedonian secession which did not fit their great communist plans for a future Yugoslavia. So they launched a huge propaganda and crackdown campaign to delete even the last hint of Macedonian identity and their sympathies for Bulgaria.

    Fast forward to present day, they hate us to death, they have lost complete self-awareness to their actual roots and still live in the communist fairy tale Tito created for them.
    You can say whatever you want but Yugoslavia was clever idea. Only problem was they were communists, but Soviets who controlled Bulgaria were by far worse option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    You can say whatever you want but Yugoslavia was clever idea. Only problem was they were communists, but Soviets who controlled Bulgaria were by far worse option.
    Soviets created equally worse fairytales in Bulgaria as well. For example the whole idea of Slavic brotherhood and how we and the Russians are basically the same people. If you look at what was taught in Bulgarian schoolbooks during communist and compare it to real history you will laugh.

    Writings of revolutionary poets from Ottomans times were skewed to pander to communism. Folk songs were edited to have Russophile lyrics. Monuments were raised to Soviet personalities that still remain to this day in the most prominent places of cities.

    It was basically an all-out brainwashing campaign, designed and sponsored directly by Moscow. We were luckier than the Fyromies however, because in our case it failed, and in the end we did not lose our identity to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Soviets created equally worse fairytales in Bulgaria as well. For example the whole idea of Slavic brotherhood and how we and the Russians are basically the same people. If you look at what was taught in Bulgarian schoolbooks during communist and compare it to real history you will laugh.

    Writings of revolutionary poets from Ottomans times were skewed to pander to communism. Folk songs were edited to have Russophile lyrics. Monuments were raised to Soviet personalities that still remain to this day in the most prominent places of cities.

    It was basically an all-out brainwashing campaign, designed and sponsored directly by Moscow. We were luckier than the Fyromies however, because in our case it failed, and in the end we did not lose our identity to it.
    I was not referring to that. In fact I don't link Soviet Union with Russians at all. As a matter of fact I consider it very anti-Russian.

    There were 2 linked problems:
    1) For dominantly Slavic countries it was unacceptable that leading structures (leaders, most of the relevant committee members) were made non-Slavs (both in USSR dominated countries and Yugoslavia),
    2) South Slavic nations never really figured out who their real enemy was; someone of higher authority points the finger and they charge into death without questioning.

    What I want to say is politics of Orthodox South Slavs is carved in order to blend nationalism with interest of their foreign patron and that's why a lot of our nationalism is meme and I don't take it seriously, and our recent histories suck (without exception), but Yugoslavia was clever idea because it was supported by various Serbian and Croatian intellectuals to create a country that would actually matter (or at least confederation of states).

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    I was not referring to that. In fact I don't link Soviet Union with Russians at all. As a matter of fact I consider it very anti-Russian.
    Because the idea and end goal eventually changed with the change of leadership. We are talking about the same thing with different facts.

    The end goal of the Soviet ideology was the destruction of entire cultures and even languages to achieve the end goal of "equality" and an all out Communist Utopia. Evidence of this being done can be found in all former members and satellites of the USSR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linebacker View Post
    Because the idea and end goal eventually changed with the change of leadership. We are talking about the same thing with different facts.

    The end goal of the Soviet ideology was the destruction of entire cultures and even languages to achieve the end goal of "equality" and an all out Communist Utopia. Evidence of this being done can be found in all former members and satellites of the USSR.
    Tito, Mose Pijade, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and many more are hardly or not Slavic at all. Actual Tito lost two fingers (he was a locksmith) and probably died in a battle as testified by a couple of his childhood friends that moved to US, the one we see on the picture is not him but a rogue Soviet foreign agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    Tito, Mose Pijade, Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and many more are hardly or not Slavic at all. Actual Tito lost two fingers (he was a locksmith) and probably died in a battle as testified by a couple of his childhood friends that moved to US, the one we see on the picture is not him but a rogue Soviet foreign agent.

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