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    I realize american count every bit of their ancestors to look more exotic they are not more mutt than hungarian or French on TA every hungarian is germanic or Balkans and every French one is Portuguese or italian even German or eastern european even le pen is Maltese but no one of them will say they are mutts or anything else then French or Hungarian American should say they are ethnic American
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    Newly-arrived Europeans, who still have a distinct old-world identity (especially if they have a noticeable foreign accent) are ethnic.
    Their children, raised in the U.S., are no longer ethnic, as long as they are "White."
    Look no further than the Trump family. Trump (fully German on the paternal line & Scottish mother) has been able to become a figurehead for White, nativist America.
    His first and third wives (Czech- and & Slovenian-born) are seen as mildly exotic because they are literally, first-generation immigrants. But the children are not seen as non-White American in any way (quite the opposite).
    And, of course, the old man's insensitive attitude toward minorities/POCs, etc, doesn't extend to anti-Semitism, as witnessed by his public affinity with his son-in-law.

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    There exist ethnic French people on TA who are predominantly French. I think what it is however as a peculiarity, is the fact that people who have ancestry different from that of the nation they live in are inherently more predisposed to being drawn to places like TA as a way of discussing their ancestry and helping them understand. Just my guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fraisod View Post
    Newly-arrived Europeans, who still have a distinct old-world identity (especially if they have a noticeable foreign accent) are ethnic.
    Their children, raised in the U.S., are no longer ethnic, as long as they are "White."
    Look no further than the Trump family. Trump (fully German on the paternal line & Scottish mother) has been able to become a figurehead for White, nativist America.
    His first and third wives (Czech- and & Slovenian-born) are seen as mildly exotic because they are literally, first-generation immigrants. But the children are not seen as non-White American in any way (quite the opposite).
    And, of course, the old man's insensitive attitude toward minorities/POCs, etc, doesn't extend to anti-Semitism, as witnessed by his public affinity with his son-in-law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I realize american count every bit of their ancestors to look more exotic they are not more mutt than hungarian or French on TA every hungarian is germanic or Balkans and every French one is Portuguese or italian even German or eastern european even le pen is Maltese but no one of them will say they are mutts or anything else then French or Hungarian American should say they are ethnic American
    All Americans, British and Europeans are technically mutts. French are like Celto-Greco-Roman with minority Germanic and slavic demographics etc... Brits are Celto-Germanic mutts with minor ancient Roman etc...

    America was founded by WASPs or Brits so that is why that is the standard for non-ethnic all American in America for better or worse.

    Under 2.5 bitches !

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    Target: kevin
    Distance: 2.0805% / 0.02080509
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    0.02996588 England_Saxon:I0161

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    0.06015939 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortimer View Post
    I realize american count every bit of their ancestors to look more exotic they are not more mutt than hungarian or French on TA even le pen is Maltese but no one of them will say they are mutts
    Marine Le Pen is only 1/16th Maltese. I don't think TA French or Hungarian members have multiple ancestors, I've seen this statement 100 times. Abstract statement with zero backing stated as some kind of fact.

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    Maybe because in this picture I have 160kg, 5 years ago. I still look the most like the white guy, on this picture, imagine me with uniform being the white guy and slimmer.
    No you don't. Here's another comparison with some fat white guy, it's a difference of night and day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sean View Post
    Marine Le Pen is only 1/16th Maltese. I don't think TA French or Hungarian members have multiple ancestors, I've seen this statement 100 times. Abstract statement with zero backing stated as some kind of fact.



    No you don't. Here's another comparison with some fat white guy, it's a difference of night and day.

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    A diet, new hair style, and voila! Mortimer Mantegna:
    Yes in that picture Im quiete ungroomed, and my face is close to the camera, a face zoom in, my features some squeezed on this pic, maybe from lense, im ungroomed, fatter then the white guy, the white guy is not even fat but CM, you see he doesnt have that double chin i have, he has no fat on the neck. And my nose seems broken, i see a cut on my nose, and it looks broken, and my mouth is crooked, i have a teeth deformation, and some assymetricals which are more visible on some pictures then in real life, if i look serious into the camera from zoom in. He cherrypicked me also the lightning, in that lightning i look a bit darker, but still not brown, but yellowish-reddish.... I can look quiete pale and rosa too...

    Here is me with a scottish dude, i have almost a rosa/pink colour like him.... he is strawberry blonde and scottish.... he is my new friend....

    Because I smile a bit into the camera my assymetricals are less noticeable, but look at my teeth and mouth you will see they are crooked... and deformed... as kid i had braccettes but i didnt wear them, now i have teeth deformation.

    My AncestryDNA autosomal results [yes it is a link click on it]
    then you must be some kind of wizzard who has lightning in his eyes - Balkanforum user Cobra about Mortimer
    Only a Sinti and Roma who has gained the power of the wheel can do it. - In conversation with the Balkanforum user Axer

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