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    Default Cool Map of Portugal:


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    I still can't get it.
    Why Algavre for so many centuries was consider a different kingdom?
    If there would be more natural kingdoms and principalities under the Crown,
    I would understand, but why Portugal superficially created and distinguished only one?

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    Included in the Van der Hagen Atlas, and made by Nicolaes Visscher II (1649-1702)

    Here you have it in a better quality image(the original):



    Those old maps are very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    I still can't get it.
    Why Algavre for so many centuries was consider a different kingdom?
    If there would be more natural kingdoms and principalities under the Crown,
    I would understand, but why Portugal superficially created and distinguished only one?
    It was just a honorific title, nothing else. It was never a separate entity from the rest of the Kingdom of Portugal, not even what we would call nowadays an "autonomous-region".
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    I miss Portugal a lot, from afar I always found it like "meh" until I visited it, never felt so good exploring a place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    It was just a honorific title, nothing else. It was never a separate entity from the rest of the Kingdom of Portugal, not even what we would call nowadays an "autonomous-region".
    Ok, but why only this one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Ok, but why only this one?
    It was the last area of Portugal to be conquered from the moors during the Portuguese Reconquista.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas View Post
    It was the last area of Portugal to be conquered from the moors during the Portuguese Reconquista.
    And what?
    Castillia and Aragon did not proclaim a kingdom only the
    last territiory which they conquered, and more than that,
    in majority they collected real kingdoms under their crowns.

    And btw, in early XIXth century Algavre was made equal in the
    triple Kingdom of Portugal, Algavre and Brasil, so at least at that
    time was more significant. But it is too late and still sensless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Ok, but why only this one?
    In that map you can alsosee named as Regnum (kingdom) Murcia or others that never were kingdoms, aswell as mixed with ancient designations of tribes or territories that did not exist centuries ago.

    It is a kind of historical map mixed with that times reality,things that they did at that time, we cannot ask precision from maps of that time ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    And what?
    Castillia and Aragon did not proclaim a kingdom only the
    last territiory which they conquered, and more than that,
    in majority they collected real kingdoms under their crowns.

    And btw, in early XIXth century Algavre was made equal in the
    triple Kingdom of Portugal, Algavre and Brasil, so at least at that
    time was more significant. But it is too late and still sensless.
    There is no reason other than the decision of the king who conquered it to name it as a second kingdom, even though there was never a king of the Algarve alone. Apparently only in 1910 when the republic was implemented Algarve was considered just another portuguese region.

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