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Thread: IFIMES: ethnic Macedonians are 10% of Bulgaria's population

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    And nobody pointed a gun at us either.
    They made you believe in fairytales instead and now just a third world shithole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    They made you believe in fairytales instead and now just a third world shithole.
    And what's your excuse?

    https://borgenproject.org/economy-an...rty-in-greece/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crn Volk View Post
    Sure, but Greece's GDP is still near all time highs. Even after crisis after crisis.

    Financial institutions tried to suck the blood out of Greece but are clearly failing.

    Skopjians have no blood to suck out of as it's a third world shithole.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...gdp-in-greece/

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    Quote Originally Posted by catgeorge View Post
    Sure, but Greece's GDP is still near all time highs. Even after crisis after crisis.

    Financial institutions tried to suck the blood out of Greece but are clearly failing.

    Skopjians have no blood to suck out of as it's a third world shithole.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/...gdp-in-greece/
    Seems you are a modern, prosperous nation indeed

    https://greece.greekreporter.com/202...-gay-minister/

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    Quote Originally Posted by pulstar View Post
    So something like 2 million? That's more than Macedonians in Macedonia.
    Yes and no. Bulgarians claim that 1/3 of Bulgarians have ancestry from Macedonia. This means some of those 2 mil may have a grandparent or a great grandparent from Macedonia. I don’t think there are many people left of full Macedonian ancestry in Bulgaria.

    Macedonians were influential in Sofia in the 1800’s.

    A lot of the streets in Sofia are named after people from Macedonia. This includes educational institutions and they even have ‘plostad makedonia’ (macedonia square) in Sofia.

    Not to mention other places in Bulgaria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Yes and no. Bulgarians claim that 1/3 of Bulgarians have ancestry from Macedonia. This means some of those 2 mil may have a grandparent or a great grandparent from Macedonia. I don’t think there are many people left of full Macedonian ancestry in Bulgaria.

    Macedonians were influential in Sofia in the 1800’s.

    A lot of the streets in Sofia are named after people from Macedonia. This includes educational institutions and they even have ‘plostad makedonia’ (macedonia square) in Sofia.

    Not to mention other places in Bulgaria.
    So they are a bit Macedonian (less than half), in comparison to mostly Bulgarian. Ok, thought so.
    Since I didn't visit Sofia I don't know about that, but I'd assume they have a lot of street names given to Macedonian figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyP View Post
    In fact in Macedonia there is not ethnical Bulgars or some community, these claims are sci-fi, we have Macedonians who have Bulgar passports,but thats because easier going in Europe for work and prosperity, nothing to do with origins, literally Macedonians paying to Bulgars to give them forged document about "Bulgar" origin, my friends doing that, all Macedonians doing that.
    In another hand Bulgaria is full with Macedonians which are forcibly assimilated.

    So stories about "Bulgar" percentage in Macedonia is nonsense.
    Never seen a person in Bulgaria claiming to be ethnic Macedonian, not even in the Pirin region.

    But if you want a good example, go to Facebook, and check the "OMO Ilinden pirin" (movement for ethnic Macedonian in Bulgaria, politically pro-macedonist) official page, and see the "likes" from which people came from, only from people living in republic of northern Macedonia.

    Then go to the pages of some "pro-Bulgarian" Macedonians, like for example Viktor Kanzurov, and you will see some Macedonian with clear ethnic Bulgarian feelings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vojnik View Post
    Macedonians and Bulgarians are like Czechs and Slovaks; Same but different.

    Unless you guys don't change your name and flag, you will never be taken seriously. You have to chose the side.

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    Honestly, if I see people in pirin region protesting because their Macedonian ethnos isn't recognized, I will support them, even if they want became part of the macedonian republic.

    But in reality if I go to Petrich, Sandanski, Blagoevgrad etc.., and I start to say at local people "you are not ethnic Bulgarians , but macedonians" the result is they start to insulting me, if not even beat me
    And neither they are particularly different from other Bulgarians, so it's normal Bulgarians don't recognize this huge Macedonian minority claimed from Skopje.

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    If memory serves me right bimo, you are a half-bulgarian half-italian living in Italy, and you were bitter over the fact the Bulgarian community rejected you very decisively years ago, you still carry your bitterness I see, pandering to our enemies.

    You will never be accepted in the community by being a sleazy and spiteful rat.

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