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Should the American continent be re-colonized by y-dna C-M130?
The distribution of y-dna and mtdna haplogroups in the Native American Populations include Q-M242, C-M130 on the
paternal side and A, B, X, C, D on the maternal side. As such, their origin is from Northeast Asia and Siberia
where their ancestral subclades were found.
The American continent has been settled in three waves by humans, one 15,000 years BCE by y-dna C-L1373
and Q-M242, one 5,000 BCE by Na-Dene and Inuit, C-P39 and Q-NTW01 respectively, this second might have also included
R1b and mtdna X in Algonquin that came just west of Altai where these two haplogroups are present.
And one from Pacific Islanders to South America more slow but over a greater course of time.
The worldwide percentage of C is only 2% and in Asia its distribution is fragmentary. In Japan only 5-6% heavily
overshadowed by D 40% and O 55%. In China C is 6-7% overwhelmed by O-M175 and even D-M15. In Koreans 15% while the
rest is almost all O subclades. In Tibetans 2% while O 40% and D 50%. In Vietnamese C is 12% and that is only in minorities.
In Philippese 5% from mainland subclades while basal C* < 1%. And in India is generally low around 5%.
The Austronesian O peoples have replaced the Polynesian C peoples in a large part of Oceania.
The K* Pama-Nyungan speakers have replaced the C-M347 in most of Australia before the English came.
Mongols were the last wrath of this people in Eurasia and only because of the efforts of Temujin.
This is no surprise, it followed y-dna D and mtdna M and settled along with them as a second lineage and later the
expansion of neolithic agricultural O-M175 peoples gave a blow to these hunter-gatherer societies.
Meanwhile in America, most Q belongs to Q-M3 where it expanded and because of the geographic diversity many genetic
branches and linguistic families were created. However, from a Siberian context this is just a minor Q subclade.
There are others like Q-M120, Q-L330, Q-M25, Q-Z780 etc. But this wave already included a lot of Mongoloid admixture,
and has also carried languages and cultural aspects from the Old World to the New World.
But C is a macro-haplogroup akin to F and D and is slowly drifting out in Eurasia, although it was the first to explore
it but it seems as if America was the final destination.
C2 should settle North America and C1 should settle South America.
C-P39 Athabaskans are already settled in Alaska and northwest Canada, C-F1756 could be the real Inuit but they
are settled in southern Mongolia and northern China. Q-M120 is a subclade of the Inuit Q-NWT01 and is mostly found in
Mongols from Inner Mongolia. C-M48 Manchu should settle Quebeq and other Tungusic peoples in Canada along the
central plains. C-M504 Mongols and Kazakhs should settle in the Rocky Mountains and the west coast
of the west part of the United States. C-Z31698 Ainu could settle in the island of Newfoundland in Canada or anywhere else.
Vancouver area in Canada should be settled by another Altaic ethnic group like C-Y11990 and C-M48.
C-F3880 Han Chinese being the most numerous and better accustomed should settle the Mississipi river basin in the
central and east United States. C-CTS2657 Koreans could settle in the east coast of the United States and the
Appalachian mountains. C-F845 Vietnamese should settle in Mexico.
C-CTS4660 should settle Yucatan peninsula and the central American countries of Guatemala, Beliz, Salvador and
Honduras.
C-M356 Indians should settle Brazil. C-M38 Indonesians and C-M208 Polynesians should settle Colombia, Venezuela
and the Caribbean islands or maybe Argentina.
C-M8 Japanese should settle in Peru and Bolivia on the Andes mountains.
North European C-V20 could settle in the highlands of Chile and Argentina. C-Z30470 Greeks and Vlachs should settle
in Uruguay and C-Z38888 Armenians should settle in Paraguay.
And the rest of the subclades should also settle alongside the others.
They should head according to the geography and the climate zones in corresponding better
to their respective places in Asia and Europe. C2b for cold mountainous areas, C2c for plains and rivers,
C1a for arid and temperate areas and C1b for tropical areas and islands.
The mitochodrial partners of C-M130 included mtdna A and mtdna B and various mtdna subclades and in America mtdna A
mostly seen in Na-Dene.
The original mitochondrial partner of C-M130 may have also stayed back as a minor lineage in the Arabian peninsula or
Eastern Africa. It could be L3a but it's not certain, this subject needs more researching apparently. For the most part,
it shared some subclades of mtdna M the mitochondrial partner of y-dna D, but the biggest diversity remained with
that. The first European sample 35,000 years ago was also y-dna C and mtdna M, it means it came from the East.
In Africa also mtdna M1 is attributed to back-migration from Asia. Because it belongs to M1'20'51 and M20 and M51
are found in China and Indochina.
C-M130 also shared some subclades from mtdna N, the mitochondrial partner of y-dna F, specifically mtdna A in
northeast Asia and mtdna B in southeast Asia and Oceania. With these subclades, it also travelled east into
America. In Siberia mtdna A is mostly with Q and C is with mtdna M and it only changes after the Bering Strait,
but anything could be possible. So the most likely are mtdna A or L3a or some other minor lineage.
Right now, Asian Americans migrate in an uncoordinated way, heavily populating some regions like the West Coast and
totally neglecting other regions, often creating their neighbourhoods close to each other which sometimes can lead to tensions.
Additionally, the degree of integration into American society is still low but it is rising. They also seem to be perfectly
compatible with Native Americans.
Meaning, if it is about giving America back to Native Americans then at least should give it back to the rightful people.
E has Africa, F has Eurasia, D has East Asia and the islands, why shouldn't C have America? The migration was never fully completed.
If only Q and C had bounced correctly in Northeast Asia thousands of years ago, making the job easier for researchers and the understanding
better for netizens alike. Let us see if in 300 years from now we can have an American cultural community, new
travel destinations and a civilization in its homeland.
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