Fatyanovo-Balanovo autosomal results?

[Proto-Shaman]

TJK is Tajikistan. Are they still purely Steppe? Dashtikozi is a village near the city of Panjakent, in Western Tajikistan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panjakent

Run them with KAZ_Mys and Kashkarchi please.

In Panjakent Turkic phenotype prevails. So, it makes sense.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

Now there are genomes from the Fatyanovo culture, but the quality is perhaps not the best.

Distance to:    RUS_Fatyanovo_BA
0.05683568    Norwegian
0.05692628    Swedish
0.05764281    Icelandic
0.05801272    Danish
0.05955439    Dutch

Tver, 2458 BC:

RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:BOL003,0.1161,0.118817,0.069767,0.076551,0.017234,0.027331,0.00376,0.002308,-0.013499,-0.025149,0.002598,-0.002248,-0.005203,-0.013625,0.024837,0.022275,0.019688,-0.011909,-0.014958,0.015257,0.003743,-0.000371,0.000493,0.004458,-0.010658

Moscow, 2653-2680 BC:

RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:IVA001,0.10927,0.11577,0.067882,0.075905,0.022466,0.034304,0.00141,0.009,-0.016771,-0.032074,-0.006983,0.002698,-0.013082,-0.011836,0.025108,0.009414,-0.00339,0.000633,0.009427,0.001501,0.012228,0.006801,-0.002218,0.000482,0.011376
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN002,0.124067,0.112724,0.047517,0.087856,0.005232,0.033746,0.00752,0.003923,-0.021066,-0.032438,-0.002598,-0.00015,-0.003865,-0.019267,0.025787,0.031291,0.004303,0.00114,-0.011313,0.005127,-0.005116,-0.007419,-0.000246,0.006627,-0.01449
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN004,0.121791,0.117801,0.055437,0.081719,0.015695,0.026495,0.002585,0.006231,-0.020657,-0.033167,0.004384,-0.004196,-0.008028,-0.025735,0.026194,0.011933,-0.009518,-0.002027,0.004399,-0.006378,0.009234,0.008408,-0.000493,0.003253,-0.010538

Yaroslavl, 2435-2753 BC:

RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAL001,0.110408,0.098506,0.048271,0.079135,0.007078,0.034582,0.003995,-0.000231,-0.032724,-0.031891,-0.001461,0.006444,-0.012933,-0.024359,0.018458,0.017237,0.021513,0.004181,-0.003771,0.009755,-0.003244,-0.00507,0.007395,0.016026,-0.010179
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU001,0.120652,0.119832,0.04714,0.07429,0.01508,0.02761,0.00282,-0.004384,-0.022498,-0.014397,-0.000162,0.012739,0.001635,-0.021194,0.026601,0.022673,0.010822,0.005068,-0.001257,0.006503,0.006364,-0.007048,0.002342,0.013616,-0.00958
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU002,0.122929,0.12491,0.04978,0.078812,0.013849,0.025658,0.00705,0.004615,-0.011044,-0.025331,0.00682,-0.005095,-0.011447,-0.021744,0.034609,0.006364,-0.007953,-0.006081,-0.003771,0.004502,0.011979,0.006554,-0.005423,0.00241,0.000479
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NIK008AB,0.117238,0.116786,0.046386,0.060724,0.010771,0.024542,0.002115,-0.004154,-0.00634,-0.025878,-0.005684,0.004046,-0.001189,-0.015414,0.024294,0.00769,-0.00678,0.00038,0.007416,0.006753,-0.001497,0.009398,-0.005423,0.01446,-0.002634
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOD001,0.114961,0.12491,0.046386,0.04845,0.027082,0.016455,0.005875,0.004846,-0.004704,-0.003827,-0.004222,0.013938,-0.019029,-0.003991,-0.0019,0.003315,0.034421,-0.006334,0.007416,0.016633,-0.007736,0.012489,0.005669,0.010483,-0.003592
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOR004,0.121791,0.108662,0.051288,0.083334,0.00954,0.019243,-0.000705,0.008538,-0.013294,-0.026789,-0.004384,-0.000899,0.004757,-0.011147,0.019272,0.006099,-0.016168,0.00152,0.007919,-0.000875,0.003743,0.000495,0.00037,-0.001084,-0.00479

Target	Distance	Yamnaya_RUS_Samara	TUR_Barcin_N	WHG	Dinka	MAR_Taforalt	Levant_PPNB	Yoruba	Han	IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728	ETH_4500BP	Nganassan	Jarawa
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAL001	0.03182021	73.2	18.2	5.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.4	1.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN002	0.03182860	73.0	17.0	9.2	0.0	0.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN004	0.03414739	68.4	20.2	11.2	0.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU001	0.03494888	66.0	24.4	9.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOR004	0.03420317	65.4	21.4	11.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.2	0.0	0.8	0.0	0.6	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU002	0.03394281	65.0	22.2	12.4	0.0	0.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NIK008AB	0.03100570	64.2	24.4	7.8	0.4	0.0	2.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.6	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:BOL003	0.03585899	63.6	20.4	13.8	0.0	2.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:IVA001	0.03574722	63.0	20.2	14.6	2.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOD001	0.04531487	52.2	37.6	8.8	1.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4
Average	0.03488178	65.4	22.6	10.4	0.4	0.3	0.3	0.2	0.2	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.0

[Aren]

Now there are genomes from the Fatyanovo culture, but the quality is perhaps not the best.

Distance to:    RUS_Fatyanovo_BA
0.05683568    Norwegian
0.05692628    Swedish
0.05764281    Icelandic
0.05801272    Danish
0.05955439    Dutch

Tver, 2458 BC:

RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:BOL003,0.1161,0.118817,0.069767,0.076551,0.017234,0.027331,0.00376,0.002308,-0.013499,-0.025149,0.002598,-0.002248,-0.005203,-0.013625,0.024837,0.022275,0.019688,-0.011909,-0.014958,0.015257,0.003743,-0.000371,0.000493,0.004458,-0.010658

Moscow, 2653-2680 BC:

RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:IVA001,0.10927,0.11577,0.067882,0.075905,0.022466,0.034304,0.00141,0.009,-0.016771,-0.032074,-0.006983,0.002698,-0.013082,-0.011836,0.025108,0.009414,-0.00339,0.000633,0.009427,0.001501,0.012228,0.006801,-0.002218,0.000482,0.011376
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN002,0.124067,0.112724,0.047517,0.087856,0.005232,0.033746,0.00752,0.003923,-0.021066,-0.032438,-0.002598,-0.00015,-0.003865,-0.019267,0.025787,0.031291,0.004303,0.00114,-0.011313,0.005127,-0.005116,-0.007419,-0.000246,0.006627,-0.01449
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN004,0.121791,0.117801,0.055437,0.081719,0.015695,0.026495,0.002585,0.006231,-0.020657,-0.033167,0.004384,-0.004196,-0.008028,-0.025735,0.026194,0.011933,-0.009518,-0.002027,0.004399,-0.006378,0.009234,0.008408,-0.000493,0.003253,-0.010538

Yaroslavl, 2435-2753 BC:

RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAL001,0.110408,0.098506,0.048271,0.079135,0.007078,0.034582,0.003995,-0.000231,-0.032724,-0.031891,-0.001461,0.006444,-0.012933,-0.024359,0.018458,0.017237,0.021513,0.004181,-0.003771,0.009755,-0.003244,-0.00507,0.007395,0.016026,-0.010179
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU001,0.120652,0.119832,0.04714,0.07429,0.01508,0.02761,0.00282,-0.004384,-0.022498,-0.014397,-0.000162,0.012739,0.001635,-0.021194,0.026601,0.022673,0.010822,0.005068,-0.001257,0.006503,0.006364,-0.007048,0.002342,0.013616,-0.00958
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU002,0.122929,0.12491,0.04978,0.078812,0.013849,0.025658,0.00705,0.004615,-0.011044,-0.025331,0.00682,-0.005095,-0.011447,-0.021744,0.034609,0.006364,-0.007953,-0.006081,-0.003771,0.004502,0.011979,0.006554,-0.005423,0.00241,0.000479
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NIK008AB,0.117238,0.116786,0.046386,0.060724,0.010771,0.024542,0.002115,-0.004154,-0.00634,-0.025878,-0.005684,0.004046,-0.001189,-0.015414,0.024294,0.00769,-0.00678,0.00038,0.007416,0.006753,-0.001497,0.009398,-0.005423,0.01446,-0.002634
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOD001,0.114961,0.12491,0.046386,0.04845,0.027082,0.016455,0.005875,0.004846,-0.004704,-0.003827,-0.004222,0.013938,-0.019029,-0.003991,-0.0019,0.003315,0.034421,-0.006334,0.007416,0.016633,-0.007736,0.012489,0.005669,0.010483,-0.003592
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOR004,0.121791,0.108662,0.051288,0.083334,0.00954,0.019243,-0.000705,0.008538,-0.013294,-0.026789,-0.004384,-0.000899,0.004757,-0.011147,0.019272,0.006099,-0.016168,0.00152,0.007919,-0.000875,0.003743,0.000495,0.00037,-0.001084,-0.00479

Target	Distance	Yamnaya_RUS_Samara	TUR_Barcin_N	WHG	Dinka	MAR_Taforalt	Levant_PPNB	Yoruba	Han	IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728	ETH_4500BP	Nganassan	Jarawa
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAL001	0.03182021	73.2	18.2	5.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	1.4	1.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN002	0.03182860	73.0	17.0	9.2	0.0	0.8	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:HAN004	0.03414739	68.4	20.2	11.2	0.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU001	0.03494888	66.0	24.4	9.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOR004	0.03420317	65.4	21.4	11.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.2	0.0	0.8	0.0	0.6	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NAU002	0.03394281	65.0	22.2	12.4	0.0	0.4	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:NIK008AB	0.03100570	64.2	24.4	7.8	0.4	0.0	2.6	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.6	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:BOL003	0.03585899	63.6	20.4	13.8	0.0	2.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:IVA001	0.03574722	63.0	20.2	14.6	2.2	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0
RUS_Fatyanovo_BA:VOD001	0.04531487	52.2	37.6	8.8	1.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.0	0.4
Average	0.03488178	65.4	22.6	10.4	0.4	0.3	0.3	0.2	0.2	0.1	0.1	0.1	0.0

What an odd run. Including everything from around the world except for Hunter-Gatherers from the area these are sampled from, Eastern Europe. Not that I think they'll score much of it but still, very odd.

[Ajeje Brazorf]

What an odd run. Including everything from around the world except for Hunter-Gatherers from the area these are sampled from, Eastern Europe. Not that I think they'll score much of it but still, very odd.

I didn't have time to make decent models.

[Leto]

Fatyanovo is pronounced fah-TYAH-novo

[Kaazi]

^^ Yeah, Fatyanovo and Abashevo are ancestral to Indo-Iranians. Fatyanovo is dominated by R1a-Z93 clade, the main lineage (mostly R1a-Z93-L657 clade) of Indo-Aryans that entered South Asia.

Saag et al: Examined males of the Bronze Age Fatyanovo culture belong entirely to R1a, specifically subclade R1a-Z93.[50][51][59]

Fatyanovo was of Corded Ware descent.

Haak et al: R1a has been found in the Corded Ware culture,[56][57] in which it is predominant.[58]

Narasimhan et al: "The evidence that the Steppe_MLBA [Middle to Late Bronze Age] cluster is a plausible source for the Steppe ancestry in South Asia is also supported by Y chromosome evidence, as haplogroup R1a which is of the Z93 subtype common in South Asia today [Underhill et al. (2014), Silva et al. (2017)] was of high frequency in Steppe_MLBA (68%) (16), but rare in Steppe_EMBA [Early to Middle Bronze Age] (absent in our data)."[28]

Underhill et al about R1a-L657 clade in India.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4266736/

Nepali Khas (Bahun-Chhetri) people who are Indo-Aryan speakers are as well higher R1a-Z93 (mostly under the R1a- Y7 & Y6 subclades).

Nepali Khas 23andme kits collected by Nepali user from Anthrogenica



Steppe MLBA- 68% R1a and they probably had C as well.
Nepali Brahmin/Bahun (Khas) - 54% R1a and 9% C (63% Steppic Y DNA).
Nepali Kshatriya/Chhetri (Khas) - 58% R1a (though sampling is too low but it points to the trend.)

Indo-Aryans were Bronze Age Steppe pastoralists with varying levels of BMAC (Oxus river) admix and maybe little to no West Siberian HG admix and Fatyanovo-Balanovo-Abashevo were proto Indo-Iranians.

[Leto]

Amazin' how people from Central Russia would have ended up as far away as Nepal!

[Kaazi]

Amazin' how people from Central Russia would have ended up as far away as Nepal!

Yeah, thinking about it looks like it was difficult/tireful or extremely long/continuous event considering the distance between Russia and South Asia. Those high% of R1a in Nepalese Khas groups (not to be confused with all groups of Nepalis) could be surprising to many but genetic evidences are ground reality.




Ya, R1a expansion could be as far as Myanmar and Sri Lanka /Maldives. Nepal (brown colour) is just in the vicinity of North India.

[Arhat]

Amazin' how people from Central Russia would have ended up as far away as Nepal!

It was a long way home for my Fatyanovo-Balanovo line Soon more studies about BA Russians should be published and we can discover more about the ancestors of Indo-Iranians and generally ancient Russians.